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July 17

Category:Attorneys general

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: rename per Oculi following local usage. The articles now follow suit. – Fayenatic London 14:21, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Attorneys-General of Sierra Leone to Category:Attorneys general of Sierra Leone

Nominator's rationale: There is no hyphen in the main article Attorney General and Minister of Justice

Propose renaming Category:Attorneys General of Fiji to Category:Attorneys general of Fiji

Nominator's rationale: To match the main category Category:Attorneys general. We dont need capitalisation.

The subcategories vary a lot. Some clearly relate to the title of the defining article, but most dont. I am suggesting that we could standardise, where the main article doesnt dictate something else, in the form Category: Attorneys general of Foo. If these are agreed perhaps we can do that speedily. Rathfelder (talk) 15:10, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest both should be hyphenated per OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL AND MINISTER OF JUSTICE for Sierra Leone and Office of the Attorney-General - Directory for Fiji. That is Category:Attorneys-general of Sierra Leone and Category:Attorneys-general of Fiji. The hyphen should follow local usage. Oculi (talk) 18:47, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a case for requesting moves for both Attorney General of Fiji and Attorney General and Minister of Justice in the article space. - RevelationDirect (talk)

Rename Both as proposed, to follow the main articles. If and when either article is renamed through an RM, by all means speedy rename these categories to match. (Outside of this nomination a separate category for Category:Attorneys general and ministers of justice of Sierra Leone should be created since the title changed in 1978.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:22, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, following the main article Attorney general is the best we can do. The fact that a particular office in a particular country is capitalized does not tell much, since that refers to the office, not to the people in that office. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- We should follow the principle established by the cfd for vice-presidents: presidents is lower-cased and the hyphen follows the local convention. Oculi (talk) 12:39, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - I am not against that, but would add "if there is a local English-language convention at all", i.e., in practice, if it is a (partially) English-speaking country. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:45, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree in concept as well, and the place to determine that local usage is in the article space where editors are more likely to be familiar with the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:56, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I created the category, when the naming conventions were either different, undefined, or perhaps just unknown to me. I would support renaming it to match similar categories. David Cannon (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There seem to be similar issues in Category:Prime ministers by country although most of them are capitalised and none are hyphenated. Rathfelder (talk) 10:47, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Tetrazines

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 7#Category:Tetrazines

Category:Arkansas heraldry

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Cultural history of Arkansas. (non-admin closure) JBchrch talk 15:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Arkansas heraldry to Category:Cultural history of Arkansas

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only the main article and a subcategory. No other state in the United States has a category like this. Merging to the other parent category is not needed, the article is already in Category:United States state seals. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Lieutcoluseng (talk) 09:34, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Puerto Rican heraldry

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 13:55, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Puerto Rican heraldry (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Completely empty except for Puerto Rican heraldry article. Ploni (talk) 01:43, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy merge to Category:American heraldry and Category:Cultural history of Puerto Rico per WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Danish expatriates in the Faroe Islands

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Danish expatriates in the Faroe Islands (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Invalid cat in same terms as countries of the UK - Faroes are a part of Denmark, there is no other sovereign state involved Crowsus (talk) 00:34, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support both. You cant be an expatriate in your own country. Rathfelder (talk) 14:53, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Rathfelder. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 14:45, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Faroese expatriate sportspeople in Denmark

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Faroese expatriate sportspeople in Denmark (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Invalid cat in same terms as countries of the UK - Faroes are a part of Denmark, there is no other sovereign state involved Crowsus (talk) 00:34, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Rathfelder above. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 14:46, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Based on the nom and, after clicking through 5 articles, all seemed active in the Faroes had not moved to mainland Denmark. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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