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January 14

Category:Pipe smokers

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 10:32, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Pipe smokers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Doesn't strike me as satisfying WP:DEFCAT. DonIago (talk) 21:36, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as non-defining. This surely falls under WP:NONDEF's guidance that "if the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead portion of an article, it is probably not defining": the fact that Bach or Hemingway or Edward VIII or whoever smoked a pipe is not encyclopedic or relevant to their notability. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:41, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The category has been populated with entries from the main article (Pipe smoking#Notable pipe smokers). The comment on the top of the section specifically mentions "Please include here only persons specifically notorious for their pipe smoking, not just each and every pipe smoker." --NoonIcarus (talk) 21:43, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- For the record, at least one of the articles to which you added this category (Bing Crosby) had no mention of the subject being a pipe smoker, which would also be a violation of WP:CATVERIFY. DonIago (talk) 21:53, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete clearly a non-defining characteristic. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:46, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as nondefining. Deor (talk) 21:54, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed this being added to Bertrand Russell, thought it ought to be deleted, found that others reached the same conclusion ... which was nice ~ cygnis insignis 22:00, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not a defining characteristic. Spleodrach (talk) 22:11, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: clearly a non-defining characteristic and should be deleted. Drdpw (talk) 22:19, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - could be added as a glaring example of inappropriate categories. Oculi (talk) 23:12, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Put that in your pipe and smoke it! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:43, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as making a list based on a non-notable activity: while there are undoubtedly some exceptional cases, Pipe smoking#Notable pipe smokers lacks citations, and I've removed Charles Darwin as his very well documented life lacks any clear mentions of him smoking a pipe: in his first year at Cambridge uni, a fellow student drew a mock coat of arms for the two of them with pipes and wine barrels, but apparently [half of] the joke was that he didn't drink wine very much. Clearly not a notable part of his life. . . dave souza, talk 12:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this is certainly not defining for almost anyone not Sherlock Holmes.--Mvqr (talk) 11:08, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: get this thing outta here. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 01:21, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or listify (I think there is a list already). This is non-defining, it’s just like a category of people who drink alcohol. A bit more specific, but still. Not category-worthy. Velociraptor888 00:01, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as the creator of the category, per WP:NONDEF as stated in previous comments and speedy close per WP:SNOW. --NoonIcarus (talk) 12:54, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Well 11 days after the opening it was too late for a speedy close. Even more so now that it is 14 days after the opening. We do seem to have an issue of CfD discussions not being closed much of late.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:40, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a non-defining trait.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:36, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Education boards in Pakistan

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. – Fayenatic London 10:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Education boards in Pakistan to Category:Educational Boards in Pakistan

Nominator's rationale: merge or reverse merge, scope of the categories is identical. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:35, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse merge to Category:Education boards in Pakistan which is the more usual term. An alternative would be to merge both to Category:Boards of education in Pakistan, following the names of many of the articles eg Board of Intermediate and Secondary Education, Faisalabad. (Cf Category:District boards of education in the United States.) Oculi (talk) 19:54, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think reverse merge would be better. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:49, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Universities and colleges outside Europe following the European Credit Transfer System

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:34, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Universities and colleges outside Europe following the European Credit Transfer System (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, small category and not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:22, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- A number of European universities have branch in the middle east or south or east Asia. This may be the basis for a category, but this one is too specific. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:48, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is the type of thing that will change from time to time and is not defining to the institution.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:41, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Independence movements in Antigua and Barbuda

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:19, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Independence movements in Antigua and Barbuda to Category:Separatism in Antigua and Barbuda

Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only subcategory of Category:Independence movements by country. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 00:56, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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