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December 14[edit]

Category:Intrastate ABC templates[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename all. – Fayenatic London 18:40, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Change to titles removing the word "Intrastate". Some have C2D changes applied, originally suggested by Gonnym. A new parent category for all but NPR, Category:United States television navigational boxes by network affiliation or format, would be created with this change.

The proposed title for the NPR box matches other subcategories of Category:United States radio by format templates. The same inspiration is used for the religious and Spanish categories.

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Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:29, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Arizona mass media people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: The pattern "Mass media people from " is used for all the similar categories for other states. KConWiki (talk) 16:50, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Should have requested this as speedy C2C. Gonnym (talk) 17:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Where do I go to do that? KConWiki (talk) 18:02, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Myanmar's First[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete per consensus, unanimously. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 01:00, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: First of what? Tried some searching if there is such a group or list but nothing. Could be a WP:OR of the creator by listing those Burmese people who were first at something (first to receive this award (May Nwae), first prime minister (U Nu), etc.) Engr. Smitty Werben 15:00, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, the entries are for the first Myanmar person to do something. But Wikipedia is not Guinness.--Mvqr (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. There's a similar category at mywiki, probably the inspiration for this one, that has more than 60 articles. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:57, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:ISO 639 code from name templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: soft merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Should be merged into Category:ISO 639 templates. Gonnym (talk) 09:32, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Gonnym: the rationale is a bit confusing, if only because a non-existing target is mentioned. Why should it be merged? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    One category has one template, the other 2. No real value in two categories here (there used to be more templates that were deleted over the years). Gonnym (talk) 06:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Midwest Region Intrastate Broadcast Templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 18:31, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Along with the two renames listed below and the merger of the Southwest and Northwest templates listed in the next item, part of a rescoping of these categories to use U.S. Census Bureau regions and be appropriately titled.

Also:

The state changes that would be made as a result of the redefined scope are as follows: Montana moved from Midwest to West; Oklahoma moved from Midwest to South; DC, Maryland, and Delaware moved from Northeast to South. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Gonnym (talk) 09:14, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northwest Region Intrastate Broadcast Templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. – Fayenatic London 18:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Combined category name would be Western United States mass media navigational boxes. Part of a rescoping of the regional boxes to use U.S. Census Bureau regions. Several subcats would be moved from one region to the other to suit. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:40, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Gonnym (talk) 09:13, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have only tagged the Southwest category page today. – Fayenatic London 09:51, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Fayenatic london Some of the cat pages in the nom at the top of the 12/14 page (Intrastate ABC templates) lost their tags when some other CfDS actions were taken. Should they be retagged? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:08, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Sammi Brie: Thanks for the ping. Yes – Done. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Regional Intrastate Broadcast templates[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 18:23, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: This name better reflects the scope of the category and is more in line with country-level categories. Gonnym (talk) 08:33, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. This category and subcats are the only place "intrastate" is used in any category titles. Better titles are to be had for all of them. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:38, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Time Zone Intrastate Broadcast templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: WP:SOFTDELETE as an apparently sound rationale gathered no other participation. – Fayenatic London 18:21, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: This is the only category tree for templates by time zone on the encyclopedia. It is redundant to others (most of the ultimate categories here are in a subcat of Category:United States mass media navigational boxes) and should be deleted. {{USTimeZoneTemplates}} is being TfDed in a related action.

To be deleted alongside it are its nine immediate child categories:

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Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:12, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hindu mythological television series[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. – Fayenatic London 18:17, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose 1. (3 C, 28 P)! 2. There are surely lots of possible mythological Indian TV series contents that are not about Hindu deities. --Just N. (talk) 20:38, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Objection: contrary to Marco's statement the name of the nominated category doesn't have any hint that only non-Indian TV contents are counting! Although I'm in no way a Bollywood fan I'm quite sure that a lot of TV stuff about Hindu mythological contents even in English should exist even if I don't know where in America, UK, Australia, NZ I should search for it. BBC perhaps? Comparative religuious studies? So I still think it's not a good idea to wipe it out per CfD. --Just N. (talk) 21:39, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac15 03:59, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Just N. provides a very hypothetical objection, even if non-Indian Hindu mythological television series would exist (which remains to be seen) they may not be notable. Fact is that right now there isn't any article next to the one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:19, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- Not all Hindu myth is necessarily mainly about deities. Category:Indian television series about Hindu myths would be needed as aspects of Mahabaratha concern mortals of a legendary period. I expect there are (Non-TV) films too. Category:Foreign media about Hindu myth with "foreign" being defined in a headnote as not from south Asia might also be needed. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:46, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would not have a problem with changing the scope and name of the subcategory, but that would require a different nomination. Neither would I have a problem with creating new categories, but that is also beyond the scope of this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:06, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Elliot See[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 06:16, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete I dispute that it as appropriate to have a category for this minor astronaut Elliot See: a classic example of WP:OVERCAT. There is no Category:Michael J. Adams for Michael J. Adams, for instance; many other negative examples, especially outside of the United States (see WP:CSB). UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. There are similar categories about astronauts that could be co-nominated; for example Category:David Scott, Category:Gus Grissom, Category:Ed White (astronaut) etc. Lettlerhello • contribs 04:02, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Those have stronger keep justification IMHO, so don't look to me, though I'll !vote if I come across them in a future nom. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:16, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep No value rationale given for deletion. Speedy deletion was requested under CS1 (empty category) but the category was not empty. Now WP:OVERCAT is claimed, but nominator does not specify which clause is the relevant one. Category:David Scott has sixteen pages, Category:Gus Grissom has twelve. I don't think all astronauts require categories, nor that the fact that some of them do warrants creation for all of them, but I do contend that the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo astronauts are sufficiently covered to warrant them. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:21, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, per Hawkeye's reasoning. See's role in the early space age was certainly much less than Scott's, Grissom's, White's, and the other giants of spaceflight, yet as a prominent Gemini participant, a member of several Gemini mission backup and support crews, and as a member of the historical NASA Astronaut Group 2, he did his share to shape the program. See is memorialized both on the Moon and on Earth. Would have to read quite a bit better justification for removal of the category considering the era involved. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:39, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete pages like Space Mirror Memorial shouldn't be in this category just because he is one of the 20 people on the monument. Once the incorrectly-categorized pages are removed, this would be too small a category. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 21:04, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Space Mirror Memorial is the National Memorial honoring and remembering those who've died in the NASA space program. From the page, the Memorial is: "Designated by the U.S. Congress 'as the national memorial to astronauts who die in the line of duty' (Joint Resolution 214, 1991)". Among few others, including Elliot See, it contains the names of the fallen from Apollo 1, the Challenger disaster and the Columbia disaster. It seems entirely appropriate to add it to the categories of the honorees, and as your reasoning for deletion hinges on this, please reflect and reconsider, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 21:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete. Per Marcocapelle, out of the five entries in the category three do not belong. Removing them, we are left with two entries which is SMALLCAT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mvqr (talk • contribs) 12:37, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Musicians by band categories with one article[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 06:41, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: These are all categories for bands that have an article for one member, and the category definition suggests such categories are not needed unless at least two band members have an article. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:56, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete per Marcocapelle. – Fayenatic London 17:19, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I agree with nom and Marcocapelle's comment. If more any of the above bands have a member that gets an article created, these categories can always be re-created at that point. -2pou (talk) 18:28, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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