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December 10[edit]

Category:Headmasters of Oundle School[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Rathfelder (talk) 21:26, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: They seem to be identical, and some articles are in both categories. Rathfelder (talk) 23:59, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Space in life[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Spatial cognition. bibliomaniac15 19:12, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: I'm not entirely sure what "space in life" means, but the entries seem to be related to Spatial cognition. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 22:36, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Euthenics[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 1#Category:Euthenics

Category:American television series by production location[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Television shows filmed in the United States. (non-admin closure) 2pou (talk) 18:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: An unnecessary level of indirection - the state-level categories should be direct subcats of Category:Television shows filmed in the United States User:力 (powera, π, ν) 20:19, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Israeli noodle dishes[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 1#Category:Israeli noodle dishes

Category:Disorders of adult personality and behaviour[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. ✗plicit 02:08, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, this groups together very unrelated mental disorders. If one must group them by three or four then this might be a possibility but in Wikipedia we are not limited to a specific number. Besides it is odd not to be able to find Personality disorders directly under Mental disorders, since Personality disorders are one of the most well-known disorders. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I don't love the name "Mental and behavioural disorders", but it's certainly more useful "Disorders of adult personality and behaviour". Perhaps it's simply a holdover from when personality disorders were in a different "axis" in the DSM to all other psych disorders. Regardless, specifying both is no longer useful. And specifying adult disorders is strange, most disorders (except personality disorders and a handful of others) can be diagnosed in at least adolescence. Including most of the ones in that category. --Xurizuri (talk) 22:08, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This category structure was created to mirror the ICD-10 categorization (see https://icd.who.int/browse10/2019/en#/V). This is an internationally recognized way to categorize all diseases and disorders in medicine. The ICD-10 calls the broad category "Mental and behavioural disorders" (codes F00-F99). Amongst the subcategories of this, one is "Disorders of adult personality and behaviour" (codes F60–F69). These titles are what the ICD-10 uses verbatim. The categories have {{ICD category}} at the top explaining this categorization. --Scott Alter (talk) 02:40, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Verbatim titles are of no use, we use common names rather than official names. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:25, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Scott Alter. --Just N. (talk) 14:48, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Comment -- Is "adult" a necessary part of the title? Are not children (and teenagers) liable to the same disorders? Peterkingiron (talk) 17:30, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Apparently they can not be diagnosed as such. As mentioned above, this is the official title in ICD-10. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:04, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - Almost all disorders that are diagnosable in adulthood are diagnosable in adolescence. In literature and in practice, the only age-based subcategories that are commonly used are geriatric and paediatric. Also, even if we did use the official names, the ICD-10 categorisation is outdated. The current version of ICD-11 uses "Mental, behavioural or neurodevelopmental disorders", which would be easily recognisable in the suggested category name. Neither of the current major classification systems describes a specific "adult" category so we shouldn't take it upon ourselves to do so. --Xurizuri (talk) 00:00, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The target has been renamed per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_October_27#Category:Mental_and_behavioural_disorders. – Fayenatic London 17:46, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: In light of the recent target rename.
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  • I'm even more for it merging to that name, having been a participant in the renaming discussion. --Xurizuri (talk) 14:24, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I don't see at all that the above affirmation of Xurizuri "ICD-11 uses "Mental, behavioural or neurodevelopmental disorders", which would be easily recognisable in the suggested category name" can be accepted as true. Not at all "easily recognisable"! ICD-11 would be fine. --Just N. (talk) 23:55, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not sure how this relates to the discussion about Category:Disorders of adult personality and behaviour. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:45, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • I worded it poorly. Basically, I meant that if someone is looking for a category about "mental, behavioural or neurodevelopmental disorders", they'd be able to figure out that they should check the category called "mental disorders". Regardless, on a re-read, that statement was at best a tangent. --Xurizuri (talk) 17:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. There is no need to keep this category that was based on ICD-10, now that ICD-11 has superseded that classification. – Fayenatic London 17:21, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Multi-genre disaster films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: I'm not aware of any of these hybrids being recognized film genres, and I'm not sure we need to combine them into single categories in this manner. The fact that these categories were created by an editor whose Talk page is replete with notifications about their categories being merged/renamed/deleted isn't boosting my confidence. DonIago (talk) 18:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Corsican emigrants to the United States[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 16:16, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Berber emigrants and sub-cats[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge all. – Fayenatic London 16:15, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cornish emigrans and related subcats[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge all. – Fayenatic London 16:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ancestors of the British Royal Family[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. TheSandDoctor Talk 07:20, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: The royal and noble families of Europe are interrelated to such a vast extent that this category would, if complete, include too many articles to be defining or useful. There is also no definition of the royal family, so we'd be talking about listing all the ancestors of the noble and royal families that married into the family as well. This is non-defining and any useful definition of the term would duplicate existing categories, such as Category:British royalty. Celia Homeford (talk) 12:37, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose This seems a somewhat strange proposal for deletion. In the first instance, the nominator is in my view saying that, 'if the category was in a different state from what it currently is, it would therefore be too large and therefore should be deleted'. A nomination based on such a principle would arguably lead to the end of all categories on Wikipedia. Similarly, I don't understand why the nominator is not also nominating Category:British royalty (among many others) for deletion because surely that logic applies to that category just as well. Secondly, I don't know how this category duplicates Category:British royalty (or any other category by that matter); the 'Royalty' category has things like the Sword of Stalingrad in it. While I accept that the Sword is somewhat related to the British Royal Family, I don't think it can be considered British royalty in itself. Finally, while I accept that the nominated category has room for improvement, I don't think it has no encyclopedic value at all. Though it's a given that most European Royal Families are related to one another in some way, I would suggest that there is some encyclopedic benefit for showing how they are related, and to which notable figures they are related to. Alssa1 (talk) 18:44, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Non-defining and per previous consensus at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 August 25#Category:Ancestors of Elizabeth II. Besides, the currently included articles are wholly ludicrous and list an eclectic almost random bunch of people. DrKay (talk) 22:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"included articles are wholly ludicrous and list an eclectic almost random bunch of people", such as? Alssa1 (talk) 00:44, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic of e.g. Barbara of Cilli, nor is it for anyone else who is not a member of the British royal family. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, if fully populated this would be a ridiculously large list including large sections of English nobility and European royalty and nobility. There is also more than one British Royal family, the current category includes Wynflaed who was the probable ancestor of two House of Wessex kings from the 10th century.--Mvqr (talk) 12:25, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom --Devokewater (talk) 01:01, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- This would be far too wide-ranging to make a useful category by the time one gets back more than a few generations: If limited to just 10 generations back, the category could potentially have about 2000 members. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 00:10, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Horrorcore artists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. – Fayenatic London 16:10, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: They arent artists. Rathfelder (talk) 20:15, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 03:36, 1 November 2021 (UTC) [reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 08:58, 19 November 2021 (UTC) [reply]
  • Calling musicians artists misleads editors whose first language is not English. Rathfelder (talk) 23:20, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose Musicians are artists. Tons of categeries for music labels are using artists! No way to change that IMHO. The usual term in English is artist roster if labels list their bands and singers/composers. Stop this nonsense nomination! --Just N. (talk) 21:19, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Musicians are not artists as far as our categorisation is concerned. There are quite a lot of musicians, such as Ron Nesher and Angèle (singer), for example, who were miscategorised as artists. We shouldnt use ambiguous terms for categorisation - that is why we dont use Doctor as a category. Rathfelder (talk) 21:26, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Adding the few siblings in Category:Hip hop musicians by genre which likewise currently use "artists"
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 10:51, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Category:Grime musicians's proposed name is missing the "music" part of the category. So whatever the result is, it shouldn't break C2C (though, seeing as the article is at Grime (music genre)), the entire tree should be C2D here). Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Self-harm in films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic London 16:04, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: purge (that in the first place) and rename (to stress the definingness of self-harm), many articles do not fall within the definition of self-harm. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:12, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment How will definingness be determined? In Betty Blue, Betty gouges her eyes out. In Fatal Attraction, Alex slashes her wrists. They're major plot points, but are they defining? Jim Michael (talk) 10:53, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They both easily fit the description of the first sentence of that article. Jim Michael (talk) 14:21, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reading one sentence without context isn't too helpful. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:53, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you're excluding those examples on the grounds of them being suicide attempts. However, it's not clear whether or not either character intends to kill herself. Jim Michael (talk) 08:29, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I am not aware of any film specifically about self-harm, as opposed to being an aspect of the main characters' behavior. Dimadick (talk) 13:17, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's a problem with limiting it to films in which it's defining. Most films which are about self-harm are documentaries. Jim Michael (talk) 08:29, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • If it isn't defining for any film, so be it, then purging will lead to WP:C1. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:26, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Suicide in film[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. – Fayenatic London 16:06, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic of the articles in this category. This is in contrast to the articles in Category:Films about suicide. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:57, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose This trivializes the subject matter. Dimadick (talk) 13:18, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question Is there a MOS that clarifies which form (Widgets about X vs X in Widgets) is preferred? Gjs238 (talk) 01:18, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not that I know of, but in recent years I have seen many categories been moved to Widgets about X (instead of X in Widgets) exactly because of definingness issues. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. These "X in film" categories (i.e. most of the first level categories in Category:Topics in film) easily become trivia wastebins, and the poorly defined criteria ("suicide that is notable or controversial") can easily run into WP:SUBJECTIVECAT territory. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:18, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not only *successful* suicide are comprehended but also suicide attempts. And yes, it's DEFINING for the feature film plots! --Just N. (talk) 00:19, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Documentary films about eating disorders[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:42, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:21, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Unlikely to expand much. Dimadick (talk) 13:19, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom and Dimadick. --Xurizuri (talk) 14:51, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Has anybody really searched the Wp-en for suitable documentary articles? AFAIK Youtube is full of such doc films. I'd expect that this topic is maybe just not a popular one for Wp authors. But it is an essential content for our users (as parents or peers). --Just N. (talk) 00:37, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I expect most Youtube films do not meet notability requirements for Wikipedia. But feel free to search, of course. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:15, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Arbitron market by state navigational boxes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. – Fayenatic London 10:07, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Arbitron, now fully subsumed by Nielsen Media Research, defined/defines radio markets in the United States. These are proprietary, and in television, the use of Nielsen market definitions led to an OTRS ticket in 2008. Additionally, not all of the markets reflected in this and its child subcategories are defined radio markets by Arbitron. Renaming would remove any potential concerns similar to the old OTRS ticket for this category and more accurately reflect scope.

There are 51 subcategories of the form "(STATE) Arbitron market navigational boxes" which should all be changed to "(STATE) radio market navigational boxes":

Subcategories to rename

Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Procedural comment, the 51 subcategories should be listed and tagged too. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Working on this now. (Was not going to do that at 1am.) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:30, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all per nom. - Eureka Lott 15:20, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all Gusfriend (talk) 06:55, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Quincy Media[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:25, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Company is no longer in business and has sold all of its media properties, resulting in their removal to other categories as appropriate. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:57, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Red Peach Radio[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:35, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT; only four possible pages, all linked from each other by {{Ruston Radio}}. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:56, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mapleton Communications radio stations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:40, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Company is no longer in business. Only remaining article in category is a redirect on a topic now owned by another company. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:54, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, as creator, per nom. Mlaffs (talk) 00:43, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Delmarva Broadcasting radio stations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: No longer an active company (was purchased by Forever Media, which does not have an article or category but likely merits one). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:51, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, as creator, per nom. Mlaffs (talk) 00:43, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Celebrity doctors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. There is a consensus that the category does have some sort of defining nature to it (doctors who have achieved some sort of notability for appearing on TV and other media). The question posed by the nomination is whether the category fails WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, or to rephrase the question, is the emphasis in the title on "celebrity" (which is subjective) or "celebrity doctor" taken as a descriptive term? It seems that the inability to settle on a new term more or less confirms the latter. It's also worth noting that there is already a main article at Celebrity doctor, which for some reason was not fully taken into account during the discussion. bibliomaniac15 19:22, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 21:35, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Doesn't seem like there's a consensus to delete, but no target name has been decided on either.
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  • I have added Sanjay Gupta to the category. The article literally says "Gupta is known for his many TV appearances on health-related issues" and we categorize people for what they are known for. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:18, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- Whether a person is a celebrity is a wholly subjective matter, and thus one inappropriate for a category. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per Marcocapelle. I'v changed my mind and canceled my other vote above. Some more precise criteria description would be helpful to eliminate the ususal suspect of SUBJECTIVECAT indeed. --Just N. (talk) 20:47, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Commment: the proposed renames of Category:Media personality doctors or Category:Medical professionals in media seem even more of an artificial construct, i.e. used only on Wikipedia to classify and meta-classify, disregarding WP:DEFINING and WP:COPDEF. While it's subjective, at least "celebrity doctor" is a term that's actually in fairly wide use. --Animalparty! (talk) 22:50, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Best Actor in a Leading Role for Asian Academy Creative Awards winners[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:48, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia doesn't have general categories for any the Asian Academy Creative Awards so these specific categories don't really have a place here, they are too small. For now. The relevant article is Asian Academy Creative Awards. Liz Read! Talk! 04:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete -- Asian Academy Creative Awards (which should be the main article) indicates that this is Singapore's film award for Asia films, etc. Many countries have such award ceremonies, but only a few of the most prominent are allowed categories (as an exception to . The awards appear only to be four years old, so that none could have the normal minimum of five members yet. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:53, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2018–19 MPBL season[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 18#Category:2018–19 MPBL season

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