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Category:Gemitaiz

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous category per WP:OCEPON since only content is appropriately categorized in the subcat Category:Gemitaiz albums. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 23:14, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Regiments of the Union Army

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Units and formations of the Union Army by state or territory to reflect the renamed contents from this discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history/Archive_160#ACW_regiment_naming_and_categories. Per that discussion this cat renaming would also need to be applied to all next level "X Union Army regiments" toward "X Union Army units" subcategories. BusterD (talk) 22:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This is (perhaps unclearly) mentioned in the nomination. If you look further down to the subcat contained articles, the page subjects range in size from brigade to regiment to battalion to company to battery. For the record, this morning I made a malformed nomination (from "...regiment" to "...units") of each of these subcats but have temporarily withdrawn it after my malformation was pointed out. The discussion linked in the nom was between myself and two WikiProject:Military History project coordinators, both administrators as well. I made this nomination as a result of that informed discussion. BusterD (talk) 21:21, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Regiments of the Confederate States Army

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Units and formations of the Confederate States Army by state or territory to reflect the renamed contents from this discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:22, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history/Archive_160#ACW_regiment_naming_and_categories. Per that discussion this cat renaming would also need to be applied to all next level "X Confederate States Army regiments" toward "X Confederate States Army units" subcategories. BusterD (talk) 22:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:UK Championships (snooker)

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:UK Championship (snooker). There is no consensus to remove the disambiguator, but based on other similar categories there is no reason for the category to be pluralized. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: More suitable per the articles involved. Would also be fine with Category:UK Championship (snooker) if disambig is required (I don't think it is). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:20, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jessie (2011 TV series)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Category:Jessie (2011 TV series)

Category:WikiProject Genetics participants

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer, sole content is Category:Wikipedians interested in genetics‎, which is miscategorized anyway, and Category:WikiProject Genetics members‎, which should be moved up to both parent categories. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pratyekabuddhas

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only one other article next to the eponymous article. The two articles are directly interlinked already. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cinema COTW participants‎

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Cinema Collaboration of the Week is tagged as inactive. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:32, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians who see, but do not necessarily own, pets

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:16, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This appears to be a joke category, as the userbox that populates it does not make any statements about seeing pets. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Choirmasters

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Category:Choirmasters

Category:Wikipedians who participate in the Comics Collaboration of the Month

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete deleted as G7 by Fastily * Pppery * it has begun... 22:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Collaboration is marked as historical/archived. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:23, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians who participate in the Baseball Article Improvement Drive

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I just added {{historical}} to Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Article improvement drive, since it seems to have stopped functioning around 2009 and hadn't been edited since 2014. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:20, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deaths form the COVID-19 pandemic in Andorra

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The result of the discussion was: speedy rename per C2A. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: misspelled "from" and there are no other categories of this with correct spelling DemonStalker (talk) 15:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Digital marketing companies in San Francisco, USA

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Newly created by COI editor, localization is too specific. Eostrix  (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 11:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Order of Saint Stanislaus

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This award is usually mentioned with others in an "awards" section of the bio, if at all. It is not remotely defining for individuals such as Alexander Bagration of Mukhrani, Otto von Bismarck, or Christian IX of Denmark. (t · c) buidhe 05:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Czech non-sectarian Muslims

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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 08:26, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:Non-sectarian Muslims was renamed to Category:Non-denominational Muslims here and Category:Non-denominational Muslims was deleted here. Non-sectarian Czech Muslims can simply be categorized as Czech Muslims. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Statuary of Ludwig van Beethoven

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The result of the discussion was: speedily rename. The category creator agrees with the proposed move, which follows other moves already made. Although this is not a super-new category, discussion is not really required where these factors have lined up. BD2412 T 04:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: All sculptures are statues, but not all statues are sculptures. This category is not a subcategory of Category:Statues, so move does not require any category changes. See parent list of sculptures of Ludwig van Beethoven. --Another Believer (Talk) 04:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People with scoliosis

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NOT, WP:COP and WP:NONDEFINING
According to the Scoliosis article, the curving of the spine effects between 2-3% of the American population. Of the 17 articles in this category, 12 either don't mention it at all or give 1 sentence in their childhood like with Laura Dern#Early life, Chloë Sevigny#1974–1993: Early life, and James Blake (tennis)#Early life and education. We get 3 sentences for Isabella Rossellini#Early life and also learn she had an appendectomy at age 5. Richard III of England does have a paragraph describing his reputation as a hunchback with the analysis of his recently found remains but that still seems like a stretch. (The only article defined by this condition is Brooke Lyons who wrote a book on it and founded an organization, so I added her to Category:Health activists since we don't have enough content for Category:Scoliosis activists.) I don't feel able to write a list that would pass WP:LISTN but I copied all the category contents right here so no work is lost if another editor is up to the task. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, very clearly a non-defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:03, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It is not entirely surprising that scoliosis does not get treated at length in the biographical articles. Per the main article: "Mild scoliosis does not typically cause problems, but more severe cases can affect breathing and movement." The symptoms described in the article cause problems, but they are not typically life threatening. "Pain in the back, shoulders, neck, ribs and buttock", "Respiratory or cardiac problems", "Constipation", "Limited mobility secondary to pain". Dimadick (talk) 17:19, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- Where this is a severe deformity, it is likely to be life-defining. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:05, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. If kept it should however be renamed to sth like Category:People with severe scoliosis. BTW isn't it the same with cases of severe Diabetes ->amputations etc.? --Just N. (talk) 19:40, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People with biliary atresia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NOT, WP:COP and WP:NONDEFINING
Biliary atresia is a "childhood disease of the liver in which one or more bile ducts are abnormally narrow, blocked, or absent". The only article in the category is Kendall Ciesemier but WP:SMALLCAT is not a concern: according to that main article, the rates vary from 1 in 16,700 in the British Isles to 1 in 5,000 in East Asia. So not so common that you'd hear of it a lot, but not so rare that a large population wouldn't have many cases. People today often have several childhood illnesses and many more in the past and Wikipedia is not a medical record for every illness that notable people survive during their lives. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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South Slavic surname categories

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The result of the discussion was: if I squint really hard, I can see a consensus for Category:Bosnian surnames, Category:Croatian surnames, Category:Serbian surnames, and Category:Montenegrin surnames. I am unsure how to adjust the parent categories; I am pinging Joy nominator for this. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:56, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I had proposed this rename back in 2014, but appear to have struck a bit of a nerve there, as two out of the three oppose !votes were from users who are now permanently banned or blocked for abusive behavior in this topic area; we were unable to reach consensus in that discussion despite the fact I believe my arguments countered all the objections, and few other knowledgeable users chimed in before the discussion was closed. So, the context here is that Serbo-Croatian is the proper English linguistic name of the language, but Bosnian/Croatian/Montenegrin/Serbian are the official language names. These surnames categorized in here are less tightly linked to any linguistic construct debated since the 19th century, but more to basic cultural origin - there are indeed many surnames that appear among the speakers of most if not all of these languages, and conversely many that only appear in distinct subsets of the whole. (Indeed, there are many names that are also shared with other South Slavic languages like Slovenian, Macedonian, Bulgarian, but it's a bit less common and there are also different ortographies at play there.) It's actually likely that neither the proper linguistic name nor the official languages names were in widespread use at the time most of these surnames were invented, hence the surnames predate any of this linguistic or sociolinguistic terminology. Ultimately, it makes very little difference to English readers to focus on the term "language" in this context, as all five terms will probably be equally as foreign to many of them, but it can be generally interesting to observe patterns between various overlaps and conversely lacks of overlap of some surnames between cultures. The word origin seems to me to be a much more natural categorization method here, and it nicely avoids the whole nationalist-infused debate on which sort of language terminology is used. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 09:26, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We might as well just use that as one more parent category for the other four? Hence acknowledging the basic linguistic grouping while acknowledging cultural grouping. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 13:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
--Joy [shallot] (talk) 22:07, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There seems to be a consensus to rename, but I am relisting to see which option is preferred – as originally nominated or the alternate offered late in the discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:23, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the alternative proposal, regardless of the language these are Bosnian, Croatian etc. surnames. (t · c) buidhe 05:05, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- The language split is not viable, because they all refer to the same language. The only substantial difference between Serbian and Croatian is whether it is written in Latin or Cyrillic script. Whether there is a viable split between them by country of origin seems dubious to me. This would be viable if the surnames are ultimately placenames, but not whether they derive from a personal name. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This would not be a split by country, but by culture, as noted before. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 17:00, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Good Olfactory do you think we have consensus at this point? I'm being annoying here because I want to prevent another situation of a pointless stalemate resulting in the bad status quo being maintained. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 17:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chairmen of Royal Bank of Scotland Group

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per Category:Royal Bank of Scotland people. Chrisieboy (talk) 02:03, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename but provide a headnote that it includes predecessors including Royal Bank of Scotland, National Provincial, and Westminster Banks. I do not think it is feasible to split a category between the various predecessors. The precedent for Alumni categories is that those for merged or renamed predecessors are included in that for the successor. I would apply that here. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:55, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose per Marco. --Just N. (talk) 19:43, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, NatWest Group comprised the Bank and its subsidiary and associated undertakings (see Report and Accounts 2000). Following acquisition on 6 March 2000, the original NatWest Group was reorganised as part of the enlarged RBS Group (known as National and Commercial Banking Group from 1968 to 1979), which was itself renamed NatWest Group in 2020. Chrisieboy (talk) 12:16, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Royal Bank of Scotland people

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The result of the discussion was: rename. There is not a clear consensus that Category:Royal Bank of Scotland people should not exist as a subcategory, so it can be re-created if desired. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per Category:Royal Bank of Scotland Group litigation. Chrisieboy (talk) 01:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename but provide a headnote that it includes predecessors including Royal Bank of Scotland, National Provincial, and Westminster Banks. I do not think it is feasible to split a category between the various predecessors. The precedent for Alumni categories is that those for merged or renamed predecessors are included in that for the successor. I would apply that here. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:55, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There's no point to this category. It's just redundant having only what the college is of and the college itself in this category. DemonStalker (talk) 00:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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