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August 26

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Category:Fictional victims of bullies

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:02, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I have a hard time seeing this ever being a defining characteristic. ★Trekker (talk) 16:18, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Arab-American diplomats

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:03, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale for option A: standard format at Category:American people of Arab descent by occupation, and most ethnicity-occupation intersection categories. Place Clichy (talk) 15:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale for option B: I do not think until proven otherwise that a non-incidental link between the status of diplomat and an Arab-American background could be found for anybody under the conditions set in guidelines WP:EGRS and WP:OCEGRS. The four articles currently in this category do not provide convincing rationale that the individuals would self-define as Arab-Americans:
  • Philip Habib: born in Brooklyn to Lebanese Maronite Catholic parents, never defined as an Arab;
  • Najeeb Halaby: born in Dallas to a Lebanese-Syrian Christian father, never defined as an Arab;
  • Herro Mustafa: born in Erbil, Iraqi Kurdistan, to a Kurdish family;
  • William Stoltzfus: born in Beirut to a Mennonite father from Ohio and a Presbyterian mother from Minneapolis.
My preference goes towards Option B. Place Clichy (talk) 15:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Turkish Radio and Television Corporation shows

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The result of the discussion was: redirect. bibliomaniac15 18:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:Turkish Radio and Television Corporation original programming‎ already exists. Gonnym (talk) 13:40, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Teletoon shows

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 September 6#Category:Teletoon shows

Category:Fictional characters who became a protagonist in a spin-off

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:03, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is not a defining characteristic of characters. Izno (talk) 13:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Video games about orphans

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:03, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Video games about orphans is not a WP:DEFCAT. Video games featuring orphans would make a little more sense, but still not a defining characteristic, as these entries aren't about the character(s) being orphans. So while Bruce Wayne might be an orphan, it's no surprise that video games don't focus on Batman's parents being killed. Creator FelgerFan has been indef blocked as a sock puppet. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:44, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as non-defining as these are not defining traits of the games. It's telling that the two articles and several categories all refer to licensed IPs. In which case, those characters are already categorized. Safe to say none of these games are about the characters being orphans, and might not even verifiably be about orphans at all, if not for the plot details found in other fiction. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:04, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete pern nom Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 10:11, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional-language video games

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:04, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A category about "fictional-language video games"? Not a WP:DEFCAT; there are just a few games actually about fictional languages (see earlier discussion at WT:VG) and games with fictional languages is also not a defining characteristic of a video game. Creator FelgerFan has been indef blocked as a sock puppet. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:41, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Video games about brothers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:04, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not a WP:DEFCAT by any means, these games aren't "about" brothers, they just feature fictional characters that are brothers. Creator FelgerFan has been indef blocked as a sock puppet. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Teen superhero video games

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. bibliomaniac15 18:16, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary sub-categorizing with Category:Superhero video games. Creator FelgerFan has been indef blocked as a sock puppet. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:35, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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South Vietnam Air Force

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 18:12, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: By their definition, these categories are for the air force of the Republic of Vietnam, or South Vietnam. The main article is South Vietnam Air Force. A parent category is Category:Military of South Vietnam. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:26, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Babylon 5 wars

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The result of the discussion was: listify. MER-C 10:21, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is effectively an empty category. It's a WP:SMALLCAT with only a single redirect, with a longer description. I feel this would almost be a speedy delete, but it's an edge case and I'm still getting a feel for what consensus best practices are around these categories. Either way, this category is unlikely to be populated by an article, because none of these plot elements have gained any coverage in third party sources (beyond sources that cover the larger episodes / fiction itself). Shooterwalker (talk) 20:22, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Techie3 (talk) 06:12, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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