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August 12

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Category:Place of birth missing (living people)

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:10, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't see why these are distinguished. Why is it important to separate these? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 21:41, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep often with living people we need to consider weather the issues of privacy and notability justify publicizing their place of birth. Once someone is dead, there is less of a privacy argument against publicizing their place of birth.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:02, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Year of birth missing (living people)

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 15:55, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't see why these are distinguished. Why is it important to separate these? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 21:41, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Songs mastered by Shadab Rayeen

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't fit with existing cat scheme of artists/producers, and doesn't seem likely to attract any more members. —swpbT 16:26, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Creator's rationale: Shadab Rayeen is a mixing and mastering engineer, mixes and masters a major junk of Bollywood music after Eric Pillai, Category will is likely to attract many users in future Anoptimistix Let's Talk 02:01, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 11:20, 12 August 2017 (UTC) [reply]

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Category:History of Roman Catholicism by country‎

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The result of the discussion was: rename. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:Consistency with the most entries listed in the category, as well as Category:History of the Catholic Church (See also: Catholic Church, Category:Catholic Church, Talk:Catholic Church in Armenia, etc.). Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:18, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic Church in the Caribbean part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated. The suggested use of "Dutch Carribean" should be done in a batch nomination. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: this was subsequently moved to Category:Catholic Church in the Dutch Caribbean. – Fayenatic London 13:42, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Nominator's rationale: Per WP:Consistency with the rest of the entries listed in Category:Catholic Church by country, as well as with Catholic Church,Category:Catholic Church, Talk:Catholic Church in Armenia, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Chicbyaccident (talk) 07:45, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic Church in Curaçao

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The result of the discussion was: merge. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:Consistency with the rest of the entries listed in Category:Catholic Church by country, as well as with Catholic Church, Category:Catholic Church, Talk:Catholic Church in Armenia, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic Church in Aruba

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The result of the discussion was: rename. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:Consistency with the rest of the entries listed in Category:Catholic Church by country, as well as with Catholic Church, Category:Catholic Church, Talk:Catholic Church in Armenia, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges by country

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The result of the discussion was: rename. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:Consistency with the rest of the entries listed in Category:Catholic Church by country, as well as with Catholic Church, Category:Catholic Church, Talk:Catholic Church in Armenia, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic Church Councils by country

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The result of the discussion was: rename. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:Consistency with the rest of the entries listed in Category:Catholic Church by country, as well as with Catholic Church, Category:Catholic Church, Talk:Catholic Church in Armenia, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic schools by country

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The result of the discussion was: rename. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:Consistency with the rest of the entries listed in Category:Catholic Church by country, as well as with Catholic Church, Category:Catholic Church, Talk:Catholic Church in Armenia, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse cases by country

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The result of the discussion was: rename. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:Consistency with the rest of the entries listed in Category:Catholic Church by country, as well as with Catholic Church, Category:Catholic Church, Talk:Catholic Church in Armenia, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Years and decades in the Abbasid Caliphate

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete as nominated. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
more years and decades to be merged
more categories becoming empty by the above merging
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, most of the year categories consists of only one article and even many decades categories are poorly populated. There is no need for a second merge target, all articles are already in a Year or Decade in Asia category as well (or Europe or Africa, each in one instance). Marcocapelle (talk) 08:17, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mormon Tabernacle Choir songs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. xplicit 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: we categorize songs only by the original singer, which is not the case here. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete almost none of these songs were originally sung by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Many do not even mention the Mormon Tabernacle Choir in the articles on them. A few the Choir has sung so often and in such prominent places, that there is some level of deep cultural connection, but most it just amounts to 1 or two recordings and a few times out of literally thousands of performances, with many of these songs being sung just as often by other notable choirs, and many predating the formation of the choir itself.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:16, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment In the case of Amazing Grace it mentions in the article that the Library of Congress has a collection of over 3,000 recordings of the song, and mentions recordings by many other people, but I see no mention in the article of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:21, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The recordings section on "Away in a Manager" lists 11 recordsings (which I am sure is no where near the number of commercially distrubuted recordings done of this christmas carol), none of them by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:26, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment In the case of Bring a Torch, Jeanette, Isabella the first listing of a recording by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir is listing #25 of the recordsings. This for a song that was first translated to English in the 18th-century. The Mormon Tabernacle Choir was not even formed until the mid-19th century.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:35, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment In the case of Winter Wonderland it is currently in 14 song by performer categories. I have my doubts that any are good fits. We may need to look at some of the other songs by performer categories as well.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:50, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. To be fair, it doesn't necessarily have to be the original singer to justify inclusion in an "Artist songs" category — but the artist does have to have some kind of defining relationship to the song beyond merely having recorded or performed it at all. (Just as an example, "Nothing Compares 2 U" is much more famously associated with Sinéad O'Connor, who actually made it a worldwide smash hit, than it is with The Family, who originally recorded it. So its definers are Sinéad and Prince, not The Family.) But that really isn't the case for most of the songs here. I'd grant them the specifically LDS hymns — to the extent that those are known outside the LDS church, it's almost entirely down to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir — but those are already catted as Category:Latter Day Saint music anyway and thus don't really need this. But they definitely don't have a defining relationship to "Winter Wonderland" or "Climb Ev'ry Mountain" or "I Saw Three Ships" or "Morning Has Broken". Bearcat (talk) 04:23, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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