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Category:Mount McKinley

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: speedy rename per C2D. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:43, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: President Obama has directed the Department of the Interior to rename "Mount McKinley" as "Denali", respecting the locals in the Denali–Mount McKinley naming dispute.[1] – Muboshgu (talk) 21:52, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Visitor attractions

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:37, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
many more Visitor attractions in Foo categories

Nominator's rationale: Rename to match top of category tree which was renamed pursuant to an August 21 discussion. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 17:34, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:47, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral - I do not see the need for a change and I was away on vacation when the original discussion took place. I see there were only a few comments on the original proposal and I think the topic should receive more comments for so many categories to be changed. However, if the changes are made, I believe that the category "Tourist attractions in ..." should also be placed at the top level for any country, since it is otherwise hidden under the "Economy of ..." category. The category "Tourist attractions" aggregates many topics that visitors (and residents) like to go visit, such as museums, parks, historic sites, monuments, shopping centers, places of worship, sports and more. Yes, tourist attractions affect the economy, but they are also a separate type of category, much as the category "Sports in ..." could also go under "Society" but would then be lost to a casual Wiki user.Jllm06 (talk) 18:30, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People of the Elizabethan era

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:04, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge. The fact that some people's life partially overlapped with the reign of Elizabeth I seems a rather trivial base for categorization. I don't think there are any other categories like that. Besides the name of the first category is ambiguous in the sense that it's not clearly excluding German, Arabian or Chinese people of that era. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:37, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The nomination is not after cutting the entire Elizabethan tree, it just goes a bit too far (I think) to classify biographies in a short period like this, because most people's lifes will merely have some overlap with Elizabeth I's reign (e.g. died or born in 1580). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment You may be missing the point - and getting sarcastic too, which is never a good thing on WP. Basic point is that her reign is a tight fit for colonisation in Ireland. Anyway, I don't understand why this tidying up can't be dealt with by sub-categorisation rather than merge. Shtove (talk) 19:57, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Why? Because most of her claimed subjects in Ireland, would have rejected the categorisation "Elizabethan"; only a minority - the English conquerors - would have accepted the sentiment, though none would have used it at the time. At the same time, most of modern Belgium was governed by the King of Spain. Do you think that many would have self described as Philippians.? Would many Belgians today accept that categorisation? Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:15, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment You've perfectly free to adduce any information from any reliable source that will support your stance that would describe Irish people, as opposed to the general history of Ireland in the period of concern, as "Elizabthans". I'm all for freedom of information, religion and politics, unlike Elizabeth herself. But let us not rush into presenting a socio-historical world view that may not be supported by scholarly evidence. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:40, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Seems like a further sub-category, which may be useful. This category covers Irish born people too, and many of them did contribute to or resist colonisation. It is a useful category, but then I would say that because I set it up and wrote some of the articles. Shtove (talk) 19:01, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Ulama

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:33, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, "ulama" is not a defining characteristic of these articles. This is a follow-up nomination after this discussion has been closed as upmerge for some other Ulama categories by nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:03, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Latin American international experts

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not entirely sure what this category is supposed to be for; seems to be an arbitrary list of Latin American diplomats (who should all be in subcategories of Category:Diplomats by nationality anyway). Linked Commons category doesn't exist. Only category it is in and only subcategory is itself. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 05:58, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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