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August 4[edit]

Retro-swing[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (C2D). The Bushranger One ping only 22:41, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Retro swing redirects to swing revival so these categories should be renamed. Tassedethe (talk) 21:14, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hungarian-language singers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Hungarian singers. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Category:Hungarian-language singers
  • Nominator's rationale the one entry in this category is a Hungarian person (though born in the United States, she emigrated to Hungary) so she should not be in the category because we do not classify people by language sung in when it is the primary language of their nationality. I did not remove her from the category to avoid being accused of emptying the category out of process.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:41, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to "Hungarian singers". We should be be being too strict about categories being limited by legal nationality. She is an American in Hungary, but if she lives there, she is clearly a singer from Hungary. In geographic categories we allow people to be "from" several places - where born, where they grew up, where they now live, etc. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lithuanian-language singers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Lithuanian singers. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:38, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Category:Lithuanian-language singers
  • Nominator's rationale This category is essentially empty. The one article in the category is on a group, not individuals. I am not sure if there is a clear decision on whether groups should be put in categories like this one. Betyond that, the group was formed when Lithuania was recognized as being a country, by people who had clearly been citizens of an independent Lithuania prior to the Soviet invasion, therefore they seem to qualify as Lithuanian nationals and so classifying them by singing in Lithuanian would seem to be duplicate classification.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to "Lithuanian singers". We should be be being too strict about categories being limited by legal nationality. We seem to have two well-developed trees, one based on language and another on nationality. This history of Lithuania is complicated, because the USSR gave Lithuania a chunk of adjacent territory. The presetn capital was not part of the pre-war republic. I presume the Russian decision was based on the ethnicity of the population, I think of an area they had recently stolen from Poland. Lithuanian singers, even if not technically of Lithuanian nationality, wqill be of that ethnicity. In geographic categories we allow people to be "from" several places - where born, where they grew up, where they now live, etc. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Marika Gombitová export albums[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. The Bushranger One ping only 01:24, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. No other artist has albums categorized as "export". There are already plenty of separate sub-categories for this artist (soundtracks, compilations etc.) without having this. Tassedethe (talk) 20:11, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Electropop groups[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (per WP:BURO, C2D). The Bushranger One ping only 22:42, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Per the Synthpop article these two genres are the same. __meco (talk) 17:09, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Songs about tobacco[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 01:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. This is a prime example of the sublimely ridiculousness of the whole "songs about" theme categorization. The sole member of the category, Singing to the Bus Driver is included because the bus driver smokes. And that is enough to warrant its inclusion in this category about tobacco?
As no copyright is claimed this time I shall quote the lyrics from the article:-
Singing to the bus driver,
bus driver, bus driver,
singing to the bus driver,
bus driver-man.
He drinks and he smokes
and he tells dirty jokes.
Singing to the bus driver,
bus driver-man.
The use of categories by theme are so loosely used that this song could also be included in categories about alcoholics, alcoholic drivers, bus drivers, comedians, singers - and that's just from this verse. I assume that no Euphemism, Simile, Metaphor, Analogy, Allegory, Parable, Figure of Speech, Euphemism or other linquistic is used in the song.
It really is time to delete all these songs by theme, and, if, there is a reasonable social or other criteria, then the creation of an article would be a good idea - providing it does not just descend into a list of unreferenced songs like most of these categories have become. Richhoncho (talk) 16:42, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete from the provided text we do not even know that the song makes any reference to tobacco. The bus driver may well smoke marijuana instead.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:29, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jurisdictions[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 01:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with only two members and no explanation of what it is supposed to contain. It is not the same as Category:Jurisdiction which concerns the legal concept. Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 09:48, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the two current articles are hard to consider as in anyway related to each other.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:30, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Franco-Ontarian media[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (C2C). The Bushranger One ping only 06:47, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I believe this category should be kept consistent with its subcategories as well as parent category, French-language media in Canada. MTLskyline (talk) 06:34, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Quebec Anglophone media[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (C2C). The Bushranger One ping only 06:51, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I believe this category should be renamed to keep it consistent with its subcategories and parent category, English-language media. MTLskyline (talk) 06:29, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Motorcycle racing series in the United States[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:36, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are no other by-country subcategories of Category:Motorcycle racing series; given the low number of articles/subcats in this category, there doesn't seem to be a pressing need for it to be broken out. Merging this leaves the intermediate Category:Motorcycle racing series by country empty so nominating it for deletion as well. The Bushranger One ping only 00:43, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Albums produced by Tommy Oliver (musician)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 01:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Tommy Oliver (musician) was deleted. Precedent is that we don't categorize by producer if the producer doesn't have an article. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 00:42, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:British World Speedway Champions[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:35, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No other by-country breakout of Category:Individual Speedway World Champions is made; no need for this one to be seperated from the main category. WP:OC. The Bushranger One ping only 00:14, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Action real-time strategy games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename as empty/noncontroversial. In the future please do not empty a category manually and create a new one manually filling it to replace; there is a process, and a bot, for this. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:52, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. In accordance to the consensus name change for Multiplayer online battle arena, all related pages, templates and categories have been modified to designate the pages with MOBA. I created a new category for the genre name, so as the content is identical, it is appropriate to merge. DarthBotto talkcont 00:08, 04 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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