Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zhao Weishan

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The result was merge to Eastern Lightning. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 00:53, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Zhao Weishan[edit]

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Redirect to Eastern Lightning as person do not have an independent notability except being a founder of movement. Abbottonian (talk) 13:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:01, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:03, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:03, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – The subject is the founder of the religious movement Eastern Lightning, which is not a company. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:04, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep what we haven't got room for this? The sheer amount of refs books, more books, plain Google, ...you don't get to found a cult of this seriousness and size and not pass WP:GNG. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:22, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Northamerica1000: does the comment above indicate that the nominator marked this as a company deletion? In ictu oculi (talk) 08:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge -- rather than plain redirect -- to Eastern Lightening, which he led for 10 years before seeking asylum in USA. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:32, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
redirect and merge to Eastern Lightening Extensive press coverage [1] might support a stand-alone article if anyone were to create one, but it is probably more efficient to have this physics-professor-turned-cult-leader and his cult in a single article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 07:02, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@E.M.Gregory: @Peterkingiron: but we do have an article, following the Chinese Wikipedia version. The efficiency argument might hold for anyone in Category:Founders of new religious movements, but each of them has their own back story. This is the most notable (particularly since the Macdonalds murder) para-Christian cult in China. And the founder's claim to be "Almighty God" was the original name of the movement. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:59, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I ought to have written: If anyone were to create a good, well-sourced article. I also wrote "might." I did not look closely enough to see whether there was sufficient material in those articles to support a stand-alone article. But neither did I spot any profiles in RS media; profiles in major media might be persuasive.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:23, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ Merge to Eastern Lightning. There is enough here for a stand alone article and as I understand it from Lightning from the East: Heterodoxy and Christianity in Contemporary China Eastern Lightning does not mention him in its materials, rather the Chinese Government is the one which names him as the founder. Jbh ^Talk 12:04, 1 November 2016 (UTC) For sake of consensus. As Montanabw says, it can be spun out again if needed. Jbh ^Talk 23:22, 15 November 2016 (UTC) [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:15, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and Redirect to Eastern Lightening. Can be spun back out later if needed. No sense creating a redlink and more AfD round 2 cases. Montanabw^(talk) 19:55, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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