Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yuhanon Mar Meletius

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The result was keep. BD2412 T 02:38, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yuhanon Mar Meletius[edit]

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Couldn't find sources to meet WP:GNG. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Christianity, India, and Kerala. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sources on Malankara Syrian Orthodox Christians can be difficult to locate due to different spellings of names, orders of titles (the article might need to be moved as "Mar" is an epithet and is often transliterated "Mor"), and general linguistic barriers. However, I found this from the Times of India and this from The Telegraph (the Indian one). These alone are sufficient for GNG alongside the profile from MSOC, and a tad more can be gleaned from this, which is a source self-published by the article's subject (which is kosher for some info). Besides reliable source specific coverage grounds, I also am in the keep camp as bishops of a church like the MSOC have an inherent claim to notability. ~ Pbritti (talk) 00:32, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I found those sources too, but none of them are in-depth AND independent. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:55, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The first couple sources are both fairly in-depth and establish a verified notability. Beyond that, here are a few more sources that are, like the previously cited articles, provide independent and in-depth coverage. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:43, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I guess we disagree in our interpretations of 'in-depth'. That's ok. We'll wait for other AfD participants. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:51, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MPGuy2824: Ignoring disagreement here, would you mind doing a pass on the information I added to the article and just double-checking that what I added was appropriate for the source? Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 05:43, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it seems appropriate, except for the budget paragraph which doesn't seem relevant. Thanks for improving the stub. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Bishops of this sort of denomination (not just the Roman Catholic Church) are generally notable - see Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Notability guide#Bishops and WP:CLERGY. This is not because of inherited notability, but we can safely assume they will have significant coverage in multiple sources. In this case, we might expect the coverage to be offline, in another language, or hard to find because of spelling variants. In any case, at least three of the references Pbritti has rpoduced would qualify as "in-depth" in my eyes. St Anselm (talk) 17:12, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And this has now become a classic WP:HEY article. St Anselm (talk) 17:15, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course Keep -- As a diocesan bishop of a major denomination, he is certainly notable. Difficulties in providing sources do not alter that. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:46, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.