Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoyodyne

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. along with the request that some of the sources brought up in this discussion find their way into the article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:16, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yoyodyne[edit]

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Poorly referenced WP:GNG/WP:SYNTH (OR) violation: "Yoyodyne is the name of a number of companies, both fictional and real." No source discusses this concept, the few footnotes are primary sources that confirm that yes, a few fictional or real companies used this name. Trivia that's below even the WP:NOTTVTROPES level. My BEFORE failed to find anything of use. Perhaps this could become a disambig or redirect one day but I've no idea what WP:ATD to suggest now. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Companies. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets WP:GNG. We're failing readers with this current article, but we'd fail them more without it. This should be almost entirely focused on the Pynchon element, with perhaps a well-referenced "Legacy and influence" section. There's not a good single merge target. It could go to The Crying of Lot 49, but that's neither the origination nor will it be able to properly capture the scope.
1. A few pages of SIGCOV in Ralph Clare, Fictions Inc.: The Corporation in Postmodern Fiction, Film, and Popular Culture, Rutgers University Press [1]
2. There is SIGCOV in Joseph W. Slade's Thomas Pynchon across multiple sections [2]
3. Sizeable entry of SIGCOV in J. Kerry Grant, A Companion to The Crying of Lot 49, University of Georgia Press [3]
4. A few paragraphs in Cyrus R. K. Patell ,Negative Liberties: Morrison, Pynchon, and the Problem of Liberal Ideology, Duke University Press [4]
5. Many other good sources for some verifiable claims, eg. [5][6]

—siro χ o 11:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What I am hearing is that this needs WP:TNT. Although you are welcome to try to rewrite this now? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect? to The Crying of Lot 49#In popular culture (needs a cleanup itself), maybe smerge. There's a few incoming links suggesting Yoyodyne transcends its sourcematerial a bit, but not enough for a stand-alone article. – sgeureka ^t•c 10:16, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (and tidy-up as needed). Important Pynchon plot element that has broad (albeit esoteric) cultural significance. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:11, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 02:03, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Siroxo, but let's not let the identified sources linger in this discussion without being added to the article. I have added some choice snippets from the first source. BD2412 T 02:15, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I put two interesting links on Talk page (probably some digging needed, but seems to have a lot of depth). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have added some sources discussing re-use in popular culture (not just as a name-drop, but signifying a cultural reference). BD2412 T 16:02, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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