Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youssef allam

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The result was no consensus. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 20:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Youssef allam[edit]

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No third-party, reliable sources supporting notability. A google search reveals the only relevant hit is his company's website. There are no sources that claim he was one of the wealthiest men in Egypt. Even if he were to derive notability from the company he founded, there are no sources that the company is notable. Singularity42 (talk) 14:44, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep First of all, i'm from saudi Arabia and have heard many times of Mr. Youssef. He is not known since he tries as best as possible to keep his info from the public, although if you ask anyone in Saudi Arabia or Egypt, he or she wil tell you all about him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.4.34.222 (talk • contribs) 19:01 31 October 2009

Do you have any sources? Otherwise, your word isn't enough for Wikipedia's policies. Singularity42 (talk) 21:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you let us know the spelling of the subject's name in Arabic? That might help other editors to look for sources. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Egypt to see if anyone there knows if the individual is actually notable, and if they can provide any third-party sources. Singularity42 (talk) 15:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The name appears to be "يوسف علام" in Arabic (that's the form used on his website, anyway). Orderinchaos 03:42, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE: The IP address above is the same IP that removed the PROD without adding any sources. They also tried to replace entires in List of billionaires (2005) and List of billionaires (2006) with "Youssef allam". They also made this edit. So I think their comments should be taken with some caution. Singularity42 (talk) 04:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 01:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete my research suggests that this is just the founder of a medium-sized paper company. Company skirts the minimums of being notable, but Allam the man does not -Drdisque (talk) 03:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Egypt-related deletion discussions. cab (talk) 01:50, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep or incubate Searching in Arabic brings up at least one good source, an article about him in Egyptian newspaper Almasry Alyoum, which confirms the basic outline: he ran a big paper company, and died recently. Perhaps this can be developed into an article about the company if the man himself is not notable. cab (talk) 01:50, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep with a likely aim to making this an article about the company, not the man, per cab above. Orderinchaos 03:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - non-notable person. -- Scjessey (talk) 21:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.