Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yolanda Soares
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:13, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yolanda Soares[edit]
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This bio has been disputed as a hoax and I would like to raise for discussion to confirm if the claimed Golden Globes, Portugal, award nomination is verifiable and consequently the article passes WP:MUSICBIO. Searching on Google News I find little evidence of impact in reliable sources. Fæ (talk) 09:42, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- Fæ (talk) 09:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions. -- Fæ (talk) 09:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Fæ (talk) 09:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep - I can't find much coverage in reliable sources either, but the Golden Globe nomination appears verifiable. I don't know if the Portuguese Golden Globes are considered a notable award, but if they are she passes WP:MUSICBIO. Robofish (talk) 01:28, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep - Various Google searches show lots of Portugese-language sources. Is that enough? Bearian (talk) 21:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm left unsure as to what is enough; I guess we just have to ensure due diligence here in the context of repeated claims that this is a media hoax. See CactusWriter's comments on the article talk page, the comments left on my talk page
and in particular the summary of the "hoax" given by http://www.news4press.com/MeldungDetail_529367.html. Fæ (talk) 21:20, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]- Fae, note that that summary is a press release written by "Marlene Duval and Associates" which is an alias used by a hoax account. See my brief explanation below. (forgot to add sig — CactusWriter | needles 16:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]
- I'm left unsure as to what is enough; I guess we just have to ensure due diligence here in the context of repeated claims that this is a media hoax. See CactusWriter's comments on the article talk page, the comments left on my talk page
- comment I´am not going to comment on this singer merits as i dont know this singer, but as a Portuguese i can attest that the Golden Globes, Portugal nomination is legitimite as the source given is the official page of this awards, organized by SIC television, member of Impresa media company. Also it is my knowledge that this award gala is one of the most famous, if not the most famous, awards event in Portugal. About Portuguese reliable sources, there are several that can show the impact that this awards have in the portuguese press, and also the fact that was transmitted live on television on 21 of May, at 21:15 (local time), as it as occurred it its 15 editions:
1 news on Público newspaper, another news about this event, saying that the televised transmission had the most share at that hour with 42,4% and the fifth most seen program in that day with a rating of 11,1%, another news in the newspaper Jornal de Notícias, a news on I newspaper, and another news from I newspaper, on Expresso newspaper, member of Impresa group, on Blitz music magazine also member of Impresa, on the Portuguese Destak newspaper, on Diário Digital electronic newspaper,on Bola, a sports newspaper, on Vidas a magazine of Correio da Manhã newspaper, member of Cofina media group,News of this awards on a member of Brazilian Globo media group, on another news on a member of Brazilian Globo media group
- So with the above news I think that proves that the “Globos de Ouro” are notable by itself. Tm (talk) 03:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Week keep -- My own searches indicated Soares is not a hoax -- she did release a CD, has had some coverage in Portugal and was nominated as newcomer of the year for the Golden Globes (Portugal) award. However, there is a long story behind this hoax stuff, so bear with a brief history. I came to this page last year because I was following the activity of a known hoaxer who has attempted to use Wikipedia to support real world scams. (Most notably this and this attempt to falsely boost art prices -- eventually publicized in this Times article.) The hoax account, which has used a number of sockpuppets (including User talk:Marlene Duval and IPs which geolocate to Switzerland, releases false press releases under the name of "Marlene Duval and Associates". In association with Soares, some of these fake releases were about her working with Michael Jackson before he died, performing at the upcoming World Cup, and using lyrics created by a Alex Fan Moniz -- a name also associated with the previous hoaxes. At this point, i am not certain what was ever to be gained by using Soares. But it is apparent in the recent history of the Yolanda Soares aricle that the hoaxer is now making attempts to remove this article. CactusWriter
- Thanks, that's an excellent summary and makes the context clear for this AFD. If there was a Wikipedia news article about this, it would be great to add as a notice on the talk page and if not then I suggest that once this AFD is closed we add a brief notice with this context to ensure there is no later confusion. Fæ (talk) 06:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- There is no Wikipedia article on this other than at our general list of hoaxes page. Adding the info to the Soares talk page would be a good idea. — CactusWriter | needles 16:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, that's an excellent summary and makes the context clear for this AFD. If there was a Wikipedia news article about this, it would be great to add as a notice on the talk page and if not then I suggest that once this AFD is closed we add a brief notice with this context to ensure there is no later confusion. Fæ (talk) 06:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per user:CactusWriter who is, BTW, an admin, so probably trustworthy. . . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 13:11, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- No offense to my esteemed colleague, but in a deletion discussion an admin's opinion doesn't count any more or less than anyone else's. Beeblebrox (talk) 07:09, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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