Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xebian (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Xbox Linux. If somebody really thinks this should be a WP:DAB page, implementing that on your own would be within the scope of normal editorial discretion and WP:BOLD, but for now, I'm just going to leave this as a redirect. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:10, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Xebian[edit]

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Not notable per WP:NSOFT, neither does this pass WP:GNG as there are no reliable sources that cover it. Note that this article has quite a bit of history dating back to 2006, but looking back at the previous revisions shows that the article was written like a WP:HOWTO without any encyclopedic material before being stubbified in 2011. Update: The article was undeleted 3 months following the previous AfD in December 2011 with the deleting admin explaining this should have been a merge, however no one got around to that and merging such an article, in my view, would be too WP:UNDUE. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 02:35, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 02:38, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Make disambiguation There are two pieces of software by this name, and I think neither pass the GNG or NSOFT. The older is the topic of the prose, a debian-based operating system for the Xbox. But the "official link" at the bottom goes to xebian.org, which is a Debian fork using Xfce. I don't think either is primary. Googling "Xebian", you get a mix of both. I think the disambiguation page should point to the relevant pages which are notable, like Debian and Xbox Linux like so:

Xebian may refer to...

-A fork of the Debian operating system using Xfce

-Ed's Xebian, a Debian-based operating system for Xbox

I don't think there's any reason to delete the page, though I am not opposed to that (most of the content in the history fails WP:NOTMANUAL, and it was a redirect to Xbox for a while, so I don't think we'd miss it). Wugapodes [t^hɔk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɻɪbz] 04:29, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Wugapodes: That would not be appropriate per WP:DABMENTION since while it is mentioned on Xbox Linux, which, BTW, needs massive cleanup, it does not have a mention on either Debian or Xfce, so redirecting to the former could be a better option, but I'm not sure if it is even worth mentioning there since it is possibly undue. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 00:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Champion: I've thought about your reply for a bit. While I agree this would violate WP:DABMENTION, I think it's best to ignore it in this case. I don't believe deletion is the best solution here. I think redirecting would be good if it were possible, but I don't think either meaning is primary. Given that we can't redirect to two pages at once, I think this is the best way to get readers searching this name to a page related to what they're looking for. The lack of a mention seems, to me, a technicality that would result in a red link useless to readers. The dab will not be the most helpful (for the reasons in WP:DABMENTION) but I think deleting the page instead would be far less helpful than a sub-optimal dab page. Wugapodes [t^hɔk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɻɪbz] 19:29, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Search results will work just fine, the first result on the list (excluding this article) is Xbox Linux and it is also mentioned on MythTV, I am still opposed to a dab though, since there is no mention of the project at xebian.org anywhere, a better option would be to redirect to Xbox Linux and place a hatnote about the other distribution, I still favour outright deletion though, as that would be little more than trivial. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 04:25, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes 04:55, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Xbox Linux, where it is mentioned by name and would be a suitable target for the search term. (Highly recommend redirecting before coming to AfD whenever reasonable.) czar 17:40, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. czar 17:41, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.