Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wu Shu-fen

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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:09, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wu Shu-fen

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Has not "received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject". Therefore does not meet WP:N. Before someone cites WP:ATHLETE note that it presumes notability, it does not grant notability. It presumes that there will be significant coverage but in this, and many other cases there has not been. All of the information in the article is included in Beach volleyball at the 2012 Asian Beach Games#Group Y so there is no need to merge and it is an implausible redirect. James086 ^Talk 15:08, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment While in my opinion I agree that stubs that don't expand on information already given elsewhere here should be removed, I don't think that your argument that "presumption" does not "grant" notability is valid. WP:GNG in itself "presumes" notability based on criteria which "received significant coverage..." falls under. Anyone following your line of reasoning would have right to argue that anything they dislike can be deleted by saying <insertWPpolicyhere> does not "grant" nobility, in effect rendering policies obsolete.

On a side note, if this goes you may want to take a look at other similar stubs on Beach volleyball at the 2012 Asian Beach Games. Most of them are also single line stubs with that same dead link reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FunnyPika (talk • contribs) 16:16, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I missed that bit in the GNG, but I think this should still run its course because this person very clearly does not meet the GNG but does meet WP:ATHLETE. After this has run its course I'll bring it up on Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports) and then if appropriate proceed to nominate other similar stubs. I have come across hundreds like this (not just Asian Beach Games competitors) that probably don't have a single source that provides "significant coverage" (meaning in-depth info). James086 ^Talk 17:03, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 18:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Taiwan-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 18:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 00:17, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:24, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If you feel the WP:RULES don't apply here and can make a good argument for such, I'd encourage you to debate along the WP:IGNORE all rules lines. Don't take "no" for an answer if you feel you can provide a sufficient means for inclusion that is not so obvious to other folks. Gives you the chance to make a point without anchoring it to the usual myriad of Wiki policy responsibilities. Never know what may pan out & good luck :) Яεñ99 (talk) 04:11, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I should clarify a tad...Delete. I can't see a need for this as an independent inclusion. I forgot to put that in there a bit ago... Яεñ99 (talk) 08:57, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Has anybody checked for sources in Chinese-language media? --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:49, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Chinese Taipei University Sport Federation mentions her here [1], but I don't think it's enough to push past WP:GNG. She also plays indoor volleyball for TaiPower [2] so there could be coverage there. If anyone is fluent in traditional Chinese they could try searching "吳淑芬排球" (Wu Shu-Fen volleyball). Funny ^Pika! 02:46, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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