Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Writing in the early Americas

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The result was merge‎ to Mesoamerican writing systems. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:32, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Writing in the early Americas[edit]

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One year old article that seems to be a violation of WP:REDUNDANTFORK with Mesoamerican writing systems (only region in the Americas with pre-Columbian writing). Poorly sourced as well. Humsorgan (talk) 05:24, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Humsorgan (talk) 05:24, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: it's a bit much to say the article is "poorly sourced" when you removed all of the better sources before nominating for AfD. -- asilvering (talk) 06:47, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is fair criticism, but I only removed sources relating to the last third of the article because it seemed out of scope and had bits of original research. I think there is an even stronger case to be made for that version. I.e. it contained statements like "Literacy was and still is a symbol of humanity, and freedom." I only nominated the article after finding the other page. Humsorgan (talk) 09:12, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: An earlier and longer version of the article can be seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Writing_in_the_early_Americas&oldid=1164964405 Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:06, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Mesoamerican writing systems. Seems to me that the topic here is notable and seems to be taking a slightly different tack to Mesoamerican writing systems - however I don't see a conceptual difference between the two pages, so presumably a merge in one direction or the other would be preferable to unnecessary forks. JMWt (talk) 08:33, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The article seems to want to be about 'Indigenous writing systems of the Americas' but since there is nothing that connects say Maya hieroglyphics with the Cherokee syllabary either historically or conceptually, it's sourceable, non-OR topic collapses to Mesoamerican writing systems of which it is a redundant fork and unlikely search term. Eluchil404 (talk) 02:33, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:22, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per JMWt's logic. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 14:39, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.