Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winklebury Infant School

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The result was keep. --bainer (talk) 11:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Winklebury Infant School

I tried prod tagging, and was reverted without comment. I tried db tagging, and was reverted. Here is a very short page on what Americans call a pre-school, ~~utterly non-notable~~. As I have stated elsewhere, there are on the order of 1,000,000 elementary schools in the world. Sorry to clog up AfD with this one also. SolidPlaid 20:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nope. Not notable. i ^said 20:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It certainly appears non notable. For my part, clog up AfD with this type anytime. --Stormbay 20:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:N and plain common sense. STORMTRACKER 94 20:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a toddler can see it's non-notable--Victor falk 20:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm a little on the fence with this one. I had just a few minutes before voiced (well "typed") to the nominator that I didn't believe very many preschools would make notability guidelines, but this one does seem to have some previously unasserted claim to significance in that it is evidently, at least, an unusually good preschool. :) So says the BBC (reference has been added in article). (There is also an article mentioning its Outstanding status in one year over here, but its inclusion in the article would seem redundant.) A couple of references suggesting that the school is among the very best is not a strong case for notability, but perhaps it is enough per WP:CORP to indicate that the school is "worthy of being noted". It would be nice if there were more, but it is a small company, and we're to be careful to avoid "bias favoring larger organizations". I haven't decided yet whether I think this is sufficient, but I thought that it would be best to mention it in case it matters to anyone else. Plus, your debate might help me make up my own mind. :) --Moonriddengirl 21:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep The school has been recognized as "best of the best" on three separate occasions in Ofsted reports, a rather strong claim of notability. Even an infant should recognize that this is a claim that distinguishes this school from the other 999,962 elementary schools. In addition to an apparent failure to read the article before the stampeded to AfD, the nominator has also failed to follow Wikipedia:deletion policy, which requires nominators to make efforts to edit and improve the article before nomination. Clogging up AfD is bad enough, but further abuse of official Wikipedia policy should not be tolerated. Alansohn 21:12, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not abusing official Wikipedia policy; I overlooked the claim. In any case, does one source making a "best of" claim make a preschool notable? SolidPlaid 21:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My aplogies: the claim of notability was not added until after your AfD, though this would have been found as part of the search required by Wikipedia:deletion policy. The claim is not one claim, it's three. The school has been recognized by Ofsted on three separate occasions as on of the best in the nation, making it one of 32 schools nationwide to be so honored on three occasions. That would seem to be rather strong claim of notability. Alansohn 21:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Just wanted to confirm that everyone who weighed in before my first comment would not have seen that claim. :) The article might well have been deleted through WP:CSD if it had not previously been a contested WP:PROD and if the administrator reviewing the CSD were not aware that the deletion of schools is often controversial. There really seemed to be nothing to mark it as outstanding for the first year and (nearly) a half of the article's existence. :) --Moonriddengirl 21:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I'm changing my opinion in this case, as the school appears to have been inspected by a British government agency and found to be an excellent one. But I wonder if a preschool is notable even so. SolidPlaid 21:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per Alansohn's comment above. Being one of the "best" schools makes this one notable. - Rjd0060 22:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Admins, I withdraw this nomination. SolidPlaid 22:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A school at this level needs more that a standard report to make it notable. Yes, it had three excellent reports, but why is it notable? What about the programs made it so exceptional? Vegaswikian 23:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.