Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Moseley (producer)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. The editor who created this article stated they were going to work on improving it but, 10 days later, no content changes have been made to the article so I'm going with the consensus to Delete this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William Moseley (producer)[edit]

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Not yet notable by WP:BIO or WP:GNG. He's worked with several notable people and groups, but on Wikipedia, notability is not inherited. In a WP:BEFORE search I can find only passing mentions in reliable, secondary sources; the rest is music blogs and a few profiles in what look like paid placements. Wikishovel (talk) 07:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Music. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The last four refs are completely trivial mentions that do not support the puffy claims at all ("prominent figure", "plethora of studio albums", "wide-ranging list of clients"). The brief LA Weekly articles do not seem to mention him. Salem-news just mentions him as a speaker with no other information or context. Searching independently is complicated by an actor with the same name, but I can see several gushing articles in known blackhat SEO sources that mention this person; that kind of PR makes it challenging to find anything reliable and organic. Sam Kuru (talk) 14:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I vote for not deleting but having it better written and sourced. William Moseley is aka captain chronic from the Kottonmouth Kings and Kingmaker. He defiantly should be in Wikipedia. When I was in Iraq I used to jam out to his music. Edwinwrites (talk) 06:33, 1 April 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Edwinwrites (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this afd. [reply]

Can you link to any sources that support the claims in the article? Sam Kuru (talk) 11:05, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will rewrite the article and find better sources to cite. There are a few actors with his name, which makes it more difficult to find credible secondary sources. His music and movie credits are easy to find on Discogs, Allmusic, and IMDb, but I don't view those sites other than IMDB as very credible. I should have included that he was captain chronic from the Kottonmouth Kings when I originally wrote the article. It was late, and I was tired when I wrote it. I was explaining the Kottonmouth Kings and Kingmaker to a friend when I tried to look for him on Wikipedia under any of his stage names, but I could not find him. He must have another page that I need help finding. Edwinwrites (talk) 05:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:12, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: complete lack of SIGCOV both with the references already in the article, and from a quick scour of the internet. When you take a closer look, the provided references don't actually prove the claims made in the article, so either they are redundant or have been updated since. Let's take a deeper dive:

Ref 1 doesn't even mention him by name, only connecting the band with the record company in passing.

Ref 2 lists Moseley as the speaker at an event, but gives no information about him, and mentions him only in passing.

Ref 3 fails to mention Moseley, or backup the article's claim in any way - it does not say he executive produces it, or that it is acclaimed.

Ref 4 mentions in passing that he is the producer of the album that the article is talking about, but nothing more. It doesn't say that he's been prominent, or released any number of albums.

Ref 5 is essentially the same: a news article covering this event, with only a passing reference to Moseley.

Ref 6 says that a given artist is signed to a given record company, without mentioning Moseley. Also, one client signing cannot backup the claim that 'He has a wide-ranging list of clients signed to his company', or that it's his company in the first place.

Ref 7 is essentially the same as 4 and 5: a news article covering this event, with only a passing reference to Moseley.

Hopefully, this explains how the article has no backed up claims, and after scouring the internet for 10 minutes, I can't find anything that backs up these claims myself. The refs themselves do not provide substantial enough coverage to cut down the article's content to referenced claims, as there are none. Thanks, JacobTheRox (talk) 10:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED. I'm not seeing how his work for a band, or in films, makes him notable. Producers, even "executive" ones, are not automatically notable. An article needs text showing his connection was notable, and significant coverage about him. Bearian (talk) 19:02, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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