Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WikiCheat

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete - Yomangani^talk 18:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiCheat

Non-notable wiki created in the past couple weeks. No claims to notability and fails WP:WEB. PROD was removed by a user who wanted this discussed here. Wickethewok 18:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete per nom + it fails WP:SPAM. MartinDK 18:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• Please, produce a reference to a rule (where in WP:SPAM or WP:WEB), and I will gladly give up my defense. I'm not familiar with 'per nom', sorry, is it a spelling mistake or wikipedia lingo, Cheers Darklordabc 19:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• "Per nom" means "with regards to the nominator's argument" basically. It does not pass WP:WEB because it does not meet either of the three criteria:

1. The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself.
2. The website or content has won a well known and independent award, either from a publication or organisation.
3. The content is distributed via a site which is both well known and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster.

The general rule is that websites must meet one of these. Wickethewok 19:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• Comment It fails per WP:SPAM because I have reasons to believe it was created by the owner of the website. You are free to counter that argument. MartinDK 19:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - but only because it clearly fails WP:WEB. I actually think the project is a really great idea, and I'm kind of surprised that a wiki devoted to vg cheats didn't exist until now. Good luck to the page's creator! →Bobby← 19:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• Wikicheat does not meet the criteria of wikipedia as you have proved Wickethewok, so delete as you please. It seems unusual to offer me a chance to counter your argument during a debate MartinDk, thats assumed, unless your intentions were to set me up in a trap. So just for the fun of it, what was your reasons. Darklordabc 19:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I am saying that because of the fact that the front page of your wiki was created on November 14 according to your wiki and this article was created on November 15 by you. Without advertisement that is an incredible short time from the launch until you not only create the article but also has time to research it. Also, you appear here [1] editing your wiki just minutes after it was created. Sorry but you failed to assume good faith so I had to tell you all this despite the fact that I did not want to discourage you at all. best of luck with it. MartinDK 19:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I was just browsing your wiki and not only is it a great idea but I can tell that a fair amount of work has already been put into it. Also it is a great example of how to avoid gamecruft here on Wikipedia. But Wikipedia gets millions of visitors and we have to be strict about these policies even when our hearts tell us otherwise. Not because of you but because of the many many sites that will argue against their own justified exclusion. MartinDK 19:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• Kudos MartinDK, your a competent admin, I'm confused when by you saying I failed to assume good faith (I am aware it is a wikipedia principle and I all assumed you were all well intentioned), so I don't quite know how to reply to it. Darklordabc 20:11, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment hi hi thank you but I am no admin. That requires a lot more time and experience than I got. You can read about assuming good faith here. You thought I was setting you up, that was not my intention at all. But nevermind any of that.Cheers and happy editing, MartinDK 20:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Although Wikicheat is a really great idea and has great potential to grow into a well-known resource for game players, it hasn't been around long enough to become notable. In the future I hope that it will grow to a prominent stature. When that happens it will be appropriate to make a Wikipedia article about it. But it needs more time. It's not ready to be in an encyclopedia yet. Good luck to the people at Wikicheat and all the best. OfficeGirl 21:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. -- moe.RON ^{Let's talk | done} 03:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

• This belongs in Wikicities, not here. If it qualifies there, I can see merit in a single out-bound reference, in an article on dedicated sources for video-cheats. If it doesn't, I'd say bury it. Either way, I can't see substantiation for a full article on the main ~paedia -- Simon Cursitor 08:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.