Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Widely opened position

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of sex positions. MBisanz ^talk 05:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Widely opened position[edit]

Non-notable sexual neologism. KuroiShiroi (talk) 06:01, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Not notable enough for an article of its own. --Nick—^Contact/_Contribs 06:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete neologism. --Anna Lincoln (talk) 16:32, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of sex positions as plausible search term. -Atmoz (talk) 17:43, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 00:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a neologism. JJL (talk) 01:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Not a neologism, as the subject is described in the Kama Sutra (see, e.g. this copy of the Richard Francis Burton translation). JulesH (talk) 08:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I find it quite amusing that a phrase used in an extraordinarily famous book, first published in the translation that uses the phrase in 1883, is described here as a "neologism". Is this some kind of record? JulesH (talk) 09:06, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I also question whether any of the commenters above who described the term as a neologism bothered to search for sources before commenting? Multiple copies of the Kama Sutra text turn up on the front page of a google search for the exact term in question. JulesH (talk) 09:08, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/Redirect - Google doesn't show it turning up for anything other than Burton's version of the Kama Sutra, which seems to indicate that it isn't a widely used translation. It's really just a single line in the linked text- certainly not enough to support an article. Redirect to List of sex positions per Atmoz. --Clay Collier (talk) 11:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? it shows just the opposite - that Burton's translation is the most widely used Kama Sutra translation in English. The phrase turns up in many other books (like as not traceable to Burton but often not credited). I agree, though, that it is difficult to see how this could ever be expanded much on Wikipedia. There are sites out there that have a page length article on the position, but these mostly amount to "how to" descriptions which is not really suitable material for Wikipedia. But if someone were to present an outline of how this article could be expanded eventually then I would be willing to !vote keep. SpinningSpark 23:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry- I mean that translating whatever the underlying phrase is as 'Widely open position' seems to not be popular with post-Burton translators, not that Burton's translation is unpopular. That indicates to me that 'widely open position' may be an idiosyncratic translation, and so wouldn't be the best choice for a title if the article were capable of being expanded. --Clay Collier (talk) 08:36, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.