Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (American game show, season 21)

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The result was redirect to Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (American game show)#Special editions. Consensus is against having a stand-alone article on this. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 04:56, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (American game show, season 21)[edit]

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Overwhelming precedent that episode lists of game shows do not meet guidelines for inclusion. Article is list of a special one-time event episodes of a game show. While Who Wants to Be a Millionaire is a widely notable television show and part of pop culture, a list of episodes featuring celebrity contestants does not meet WP:N, nor does it meet guidelines in WP:EPISODE (specifically, "Such pages must still be notable, and contain out-of-universe context, and not merely be a list of episode titles or cast and crew: Wikipedia is not a directory.")

AldezD (talk) 18:47, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. AldezD (talk) 18:47, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. AldezD (talk) 18:47, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. AldezD (talk) 18:47, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article isn't just a list of episodes as the nom has erroneously suggested and in fact shows a good amount of depth and promise for expansion. From what I understand, this is a new format, new host, will have wikinotable contestants and will be on primetime for the first time in seventeen seasons. A standalone article makes sense and is completely warranted. This is further supported by the Variety article which alone gives it enough standalone notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 19:19, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Eight celebrity editions of a game show do not meet inclusion per the WP guidelines above and the precedent set for other lists of game show episodes. Production details of 2020 episodes should be included in Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (American game show)#Broadcast history and/or Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (American game show)#Special editions, including notable contestants. These production details do not meet WP:N/WP:EPISODE for a separate article of eight special episodes to exist. If this were true, there would be a separate article for every other season of this show—again, which does not meet WP guidelines. The Variety source linked in Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (American game show, season 21) does not give standalone notability for this WP article to be kept because it does not discuss specifically single episodes. It should be included as a source in the Broadcast history section of the main article. AldezD (talk) 19:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  AldezD, It doesn't need to discuss specific episodes, as the subject is covering the entire season. The Variety article deals directly with this specific season giving it plenty of coverage with depth. You are right that there shouldn't be articles for each of the other seasons, because none of them afaik demonstrated independent WP:SIGCOV. This does. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:29, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  
  Sulfurboy This is why it should be mentioned in Who_Wants_to_Be_a_Millionaire_(American_game_show)#Special_editions, not as a stand-alone article. AldezD (talk) 20:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Who_Wants_to_Be_a_Millionaire_(American_game_show)#Special_editions. Limited-run celebrity special, which ABC is even calling season 1; "Season 21" is original research. Reywas92^Talk 19:39, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I cannot see a single reason why one season out of 21 is deserving of its own article. Ajf773 (talk) 10:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - the new format points and any notable performances can be discussed in the main page as argued above. Including every celebrity’s individual performance in this season would set a dangerous precedent for other game shows with celebrity editions. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 17:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, A a s i m 21:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nomination.TH1980 (talk) 05:28, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.