Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whiplash (song)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep--JForget 23:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whiplash (song)[edit]

A number of articles were previously taken to AFD. I was the closing admin on all of them (it was logical for only one person to close the all). The overwhelming consensus on all the songs was to merge and redirect to the article Kill 'Em All. The articles were:

I believe that the song Whiplash (same with Jump in the Fire, which is also now on AFD) is also not notable enough in it's own right for an article on Wikipedia, and would be much better being in the main article Kill 'Em All. I actually merged it and redirected it, but this was reversed by User:Tikiwont, who believe that there was no consensus or discussion over this move. I personally think that my action was no different to what was decided on AFD, but as there is a dispute over this I am formally bringing this article to AFD. - Ta bu shi da yu 15:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Well, each mentioned Metallica song was discussed separately, and the consensus on all of them was indeed merging. The two singles "Jump in the Fire" and "Whiplash", however, had not been nominated nor even mentioned in the discussions. Additionally, singles are in general more notable than songs, so my understanding of the resulting consensus was to keep the singles and the one cover song as separate articles, and merge all other songs. (Actually I merged the remaining song "Metal Militia" from PROD myself). Moreover, since above is no delete request and there was already an ongoing discussion at Talk:Kill_'Em_All#Redirected_pages, I'd say a simple merge tag would have done the trick. Now that we're here, I have no definite recommendation yet, but tend to assume that all Metallica singles should be considered notable. --Tikiwont 17:20, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge & Redirect: All - Not really that notable and it will do just fine as a redirect. Your Merge and Redirect shouldn't have been undone IMO. - Rjd0060 18:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This song has been covered several times, one version by Motorhead winning a Grammy. It thus meets WP:MUSIC#Songs. --Tikiwont 21:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the actual subject of this AfD (the related ones look like they've been bundled in together, which isn't correct), as it won a Grammy. You can't do much more than that as a song. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Grammy-winning song. Maxa megalon 2000 05:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- won a grammy, and was released as a single, which the related AfDs were not. J Milburn 10:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Just so I understand what is happening here, there was a dispute... so... we're nominating the article about a grammy winning single for deletion? Right. RFerreira 20:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Uh, no. I didn't believe that the song was notable, therefore I took it to AFD. Please assume good faith. Thanks. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Won a grammy. Period. Suggest the nom withdraw now. Burntsauce 15:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Don't see why I should, not sure if I can. - Ta bu shi da yu 12:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Released as a single, and I believe that therefore it deserves it's own page. Otherwise, you might as well go about deleting every song page with the same reasoning.

--Rock Soldier 19:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a bit of hyperbole there... I don't advocate deleting every article about a song. - Ta bu shi da yu 12:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then what is this article missing that advocates it to be deleted that other song articles have?

--Rock Soldier 21:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Released as a single. Well written page. --TheDoober 23:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.