Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Western Khatlon

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:12, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Western Khatlon[edit]

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There is no such region. Khatlon Region of Tajikistan is divided into districts. On occasion, some districts can be referred to a group of western districts (and not necessarily the same ones), but this is not a subdivision in any sense. There is no intermediate level division in Tajikistan (as well as in most former Soviet countries) between region and district. Ymblanter (talk) 08:25, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Khatlon should also be included here, using the same sources that have merely unofficial directional groupings. Reywas92^Talk 19:47, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Tajikistan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:10, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:10, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Mccapra (talk) 11:55, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Other regions, such as western Khatlon and Gharm, were seen at risk, ...^[1] The region is informally split into Western Khatlon (comprising Kurgan-Tube and the Kofarnihon and Vakhsh river valleys) and Eastern Khatlon (Kulyob and the Kyzylsu and Yakhsu river valleys).^[2] Western Khatlon Districts: Bokhtar District, Dzhami (Jomi) District, Jilikul District, Khuroson District (Ghozimalik District), Nosiri Khusrav District (Beshkent District), Qabodiyon District, Qumsangir District, Rumi District (Kolkhozobod District), Sarband District, Shahrtuz District, Vakhsh District and Yovon District. (Khatlon_Region#Districts) It is never mentioned in article as a political division or a region with finite boundaries. Shevonsilva (talk) 13:06, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is not an official division in any way. Anybody can pick up a group of districts and call them western. Someone else will call other group of districts western.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:07, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your response. It is never mentioned in article as a political division or a region with finite boundaries. These may be commonly used partitions and have more weights to geographical divisions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shevonsilva (talk • contribs)
No, it is not a commonly used particion. It is a partition used in a book you happen to have access while stamping your microstubs. We had similar discussions before, and I strongly advised you to only write about subjects you know what you are talking about. This is clearly not such a subject.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:14, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Marc, Alexandre. When Things Fall Apart: Qualitative Studies of Poverty in the Former Soviet. The World Bank. p. 87. ISBN 0-8213-5067-6.
^ "Tajikistan:Reinvigorating Growth in the Khatlon Oblast" (PDF). WorldBank. Retrieved 4 February 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

Sorry, it is a subject we know. I will reply soon. Shevonsilva (talk) 15:11, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

During Soviet times Khatlon was divided into Kurgan-Tyube (Qurghonteppa) Oblast (Western Khatlon) – with the Kofarnihon and Vakhsh river valleys – and Kulob Oblast (Eastern Khatlon) – with the Kyzylsu and Yakhsu river valleys. (Khatlon Region) If we are going to delete the article, please remove or modify the content of the Khatlon Region to make it more consistent, and, if we want to keep it, please leave it as it is. Anyway, I do not really like to argue with people. best wishes. Shevonsilva (talk) 17:23, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for cross checking the references with articles and improved my awareness of the articles a bit long ago. 17:29, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
We have Qurghonteppa Oblast and Kulob Oblast already, so that I do not see the point.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:43, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the understanding.

Qurghonteppa Oblast - obsolete Oblast
Western Khatlon - Current name to refer a region for the old Oblast.

I don't know re-direction will make the correct meaning as it is not mentioning the current district boundaries of it. Shevonsilva (talk) 20:05, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Simple directional descriptor, not a real region. Reywas92^Talk 19:19, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete But this article itself is not the problem; the problem is that there are hundreds more, being churned out as we all waste time on this one. Asking Shevonsilva politely to be more careful (etc etc) does not work, not least because he has a very weak grasp of English. Should this go to ANI? Imaginatorium (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, the user has done the same thing with Southern Islands, Northern Mariana Islands and Northern Islands, Northern Mariana Islands (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southern Islands, Northern Mariana Islands), as well as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Region 1, East Timor. Even for the districts in places that do exist, it does not help the reader to have empty articles when the content (or lack thereof) is already in a main article listing the administrative/statistical regions. Reywas92^Talk 19:47, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Even if this is a real thing, the article has absolutely nothing to say. Pages like this infuriatingly waste readers' time. Better to straightforwardly not have a page, then the reader knows we have nothing on it. SpinningSpark 14:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

[1] Marc, Alexandre. When Things Fall Apart: Qualitative Studies of Poverty in the Former Soviet. The World Bank. p. 87. ISBN 0-8213-5067-6.

[2] "Tajikistan:Reinvigorating Growth in the Khatlon Oblast" (PDF). WorldBank. Retrieved 4 February 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

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