Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Warren O'Hora

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The result was keep. Fenix down (talk) 06:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Warren O’Hora

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. No caps for senior Brighton or MK Dons teams, and Ireland league isn't fully-pro. Brighton U21 squad can't be fully-pro by definition. BlameRuiner (talk) 23:01, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:08, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:08, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:08, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as fails GNG/NFOOTBALL, or draftily to pre-existing draft at User:GiantSnowman/Warren O'Hora. Note the correct spelling format is Warren O'Hora. Giant Snowman 08:46, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- His Premier League profile spells it O'Hora not O'Hara, and more tellingly so does his Twitter account - presumably he knows how to spell his own name..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:40, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think that was a typo from GS and he meant the apostrophe. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 18:04, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Correct, sorry!

Keep - has made his professional debut tonight. Giant Snowman 18:28, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and draft I am more inclined to merge and draft, well constructed article, also, if he makes his debut at 3pm, well then, that's a keep! Govvy (talk) 12:27, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- For info, he wasn't even on the subs' bench today..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:52, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Was going to say he'll likely play either on Tuesday against Northampton or next weekend against Doncaster when he's back from RoI duty, but apparently he's picked up an injury...FilthyDon (talk) 01:54, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep!! I find it a little... unfriendly.... when people nominate/support articles for deletion in cases where (a) somebody has clearly made an effort to try and construct a proper article, (b) it's reasonably likely that the article will have to be recreated at some point in the near future (, and sometimes (c) they clearly think this themselves because they have a draft article ready to go). What harm would it do to leave it for the season and then delete it if he hasn't played a game? Lets WP:IGNORE and leave it be. It's not doing any harm. Chris (talk) 20:22, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But that would be WP:COMMONSENSE rather than following the strict black-and-white rules that govern Wikipedia (spoiler - there's no such thing!) I wouldn't leave it for the whole season, but should get a good idea on what the likely outcome is, in a couple of days. At the same time, I fail to understand why User:GiantSnowman continues to provide delete votes, on a player that is so likely to play soon, that they created a draft themselves! I also don't understand, after repeated requests, they don't create drafts in draft space, rather than burying them in their user space, so as to avoid wasting the time of other editors who independently start creating the same article. Nfitz (talk) 03:10, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Another absurd nomination. There should be restrictions on AFDing players on new teams, just before the season starts. There's literally media coverage today where the manager is talking about playing him tomorrow! This is close enough to meeting WP:FPL to matter ... and no, when the manager is saying he's planning on playing him, it's not crystal ballery! If somehow he get's run over by a bus, and never makes a debut, we can revisit this. Nfitz (talk) 03:17, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A player cannot "meet" WP:FPL as you claim... Giant Snowman 10:06, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised that it wasn't clear to you User:GiantSnowman, after years of discussion, that this was shorthand for meets WP:NFOOTBALL because he has played on a team in a league listed in WP:FPL. I feel that either you are being deliberately obtuse, which violates WP:CIVIL, or you are violating WP:CIR. Is there another option I may not have considered? Nfitz (talk) 00:38, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - No debate now, O'Hora started today in the EFL Trophy against Northampton Town. I will remove the deletion banner. FilthyDon (talk) 19:15, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @FilthyDon: as it clearly states on the banner, you may not do that before the deletion debate has been closed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:24, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @ChrisTheDude: Why not? Surely that's just a formality and common sense? What is there to gain from waiting until the discussion has closed when the notability criteria has clearly been reached? If it's some kind of power trip admin based rule then where can we discuss this where common sense prevails? Just trying to be helpful, let's not make it something bigger than it needs to be. FilthyDon (talk) 19:38, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Sorry, I didn't get notified of being pinged here for some reason, but I see that someone has answered your query at WT:FOOTY -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - passes NFOOTY now Spiderone 19:37, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:NFOOTY now. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:47, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -Per Nfitz-- Padavalam ► 13:26, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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