Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walter Grimshaw

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. No prejudice towards a merge discussion. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Grimshaw[edit]

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The problem here is that this person is only known for inventing the chess problem of the Grimshaw (chess), which already has an article. The instant article contains nothing more than a re-hash of the Grimshaw chess problem, with no information about the subject as a person that would make him notable outside of the Grimshaw chess problems. The article is basically unsourced, as the "chessgames" source only contains a link back to the wikipedia article here. Since the subject of the article is not notable independent of the "Grimshaw" chess problems, and independent sources about this gentleman are lacking, this article sadly must be deleted. Thank you. OGBranniff (talk) 05:33, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Neither of the problems in this article are in Grimshaw (chess) and the second one doesn't involve a "Grimshaw". Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 16:19, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Grimshaw (chess). Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 12:19, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't think the merge is appropriate because not all of his compositions involve a GRimshaw. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 15:47, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mild Keep. Also merging is not a good idea, as I stated above. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 19:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There's a 3-page obit/biography in British Chess Magazine (1891). Sasata (talk) 22:55, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That might have some additional details that can go in the article. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 02:09, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:53, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:53, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A notable problemist. If it were to be merged, the merge should actually go in the other direction: Grimshaw (chess) to Walter Grimshaw, but a merge is not a good idea as Bubba73 explained. He would be a notable problemist even without his namesake compositional theme. Quale (talk) 07:49, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.