Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W15EB-D

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The result was redirect‎ to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.. ✗plicit 07:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 15:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and North Carolina. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 15:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I knew this was coming and I strongly advise keeping this article because of its considerable station history prior to being part of Innovate Corp. I have recently made some updates by expanding the history section and trying to overall better the article, would appreciate some assistance. This is also one of the few stations Innovate Corp. has made efforts to improve upon, adding HD channels to it. --WashuOtaku (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Certainly any HC2/Innovate station that has any prior history has a leg-up on the stations they built from the ground up in the 2010s, but it's still hard to see how a station that appears to have only ever carried national services with little-to-no local content could attain the necessary significant coverage (its longest serving pre-HC2 owner was 3ABN). Most of the sources are databases (not considered SIGCOV), and one of those its its HC2 Broadcasting listing (definitely not independent coverage, also required for notability); the mid-2010s ownership changes, which are relatively routine business transactions, probably don't quite fall under SIGCOV either. To the extent this still matters, this is another survivor of last year's bulk nomination. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:09, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a lot of stations that carry national services with little-to-no local content in the United States, does that mean they all need to be deleted? This seems to be a rather high bar. The ref from HC2 Broadcasting can easily be replaced if that is deal breaker, there are a couple of third-party articles, already beating out a lot of other articles on Wikipedia. Yes, it survived last year's purge for good reason and should be the same for this year too. --WashuOtaku (talk) 21:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp. Only history has been translating networks without a minute of local content outside station IDs, and this one has a worse problem of 'revolving door networks' where nothing stays on a channel for very long, and it claims for the purposes of E/I programming, its fourth subchannel is its main channel (carrying either paid programming or Cozi TV's Spanish sister and certainly not watched by a regular viewer). If this group doesn't want to run stations seriously, it's not on us to indulge that fantasy with full-scale articles about what seems to be a shell game of multiple unwatched and unmonitored stations using the public airwaves. Nate • (chatter) 02:49, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your response does not particularly talk about the article, but the company that currently owns it. What if tomorrow this station is sold to someone else, would you then suddenly find it relevant again? There are notability in this article despite @Mvcg66b3r saying otherwise at the top. Please consider the merits of the article and not the station's parent company, thank you. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:34, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There's just not much to say about the station, which in the past rebroadcast 3ABN without any local shows, and now a rotating list of networks chosen not to fit the demographic, but based on what barter deal a private equity group in New York hammered out across the country (if anything, to an area oversaturated with religious networks already as-is, which Vision Latina and Universal Living Faith are). It would be one thing if there was actual management in the area that programs to the community; there has never been a person with this station or most of Innovate/HC2's other licenses. For this station, its documented history is effectively a number of moves of the transmitter or construction permits, all of which before HC2 were between 3ABN's main office in Illinois and DC, and now the domain of a paper pusher at 450 Park Avenue in New York who couldn't tell you what HAAT is, much less anything about this station beyond the calls and city of license. Nate • (chatter) 04:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your candor regarding the station. Thank you. --WashuOtaku (talk) 04:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 01:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.: Subject lacks the necessary WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The current sources are either FCC data (#1 and #4), RabbitEars (#2 and #3), routine business transactional reports (#5 and #6) another database (#7) and a press release (#8) Let'srun (talk) 01:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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