Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Voltes V: Legacy – The Cinematic Experience
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Sorry to the nominator but the clear consensus here is to Keep this article. Liz Read! Talk! 01:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
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The film is basically a recap of Voltes V: Legacy. there is an upcoming re-release with new Japanese dubbing and new "never before seen scenes" but there is a lack of information for a separate article. Would be better to have this as a redirect to the source material. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Television, Japan, and Philippines. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: reviews here https://www.philstar.com/movies/2023/04/20/2260360/voltes-v-legacy-review-finally-filipino-movie-could-rival-marvel-dc and https://www.pep.ph/news/local/172863/voltes-v-legacy-the-cinematic-experience-review-a717-20230422?s=fjda47timjo28plrksh5mk98a9 at least; and the rest of the coverage shows this is notable enough for a standalone page (not to mention notable cast, crew). So very opposed to deletion -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:55, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment That is not really a point, I am far aware that the production involves actors in one of the two biggest television networks in the Philippines. The issue is if this movie is substantial enough from Voltes V: Legacy - the film is a recap of 15 of 90 episodes of the live action source material. The upcoming Japan release does promise to have "never before seen scenes" and new dubbing. At best this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Does The Cinematic Experience really need a standalone article when it could be just a footnote at Voltes V: Legacy? And since its a recap film, its production/conceptualization background is literally the same as the TV show.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 01:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Coverage is about this film not the series. A standalone page is acceptable for subjects considered notable. This one can be presumed notable according to the general guidelines, so that there is no reason to redirect and merge it, that's all. Consider it a detailed article, Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment That is not really a point, I am far aware that the production involves actors in one of the two biggest television networks in the Philippines. The issue is if this movie is substantial enough from Voltes V: Legacy - the film is a recap of 15 of 90 episodes of the live action source material. The upcoming Japan release does promise to have "never before seen scenes" and new dubbing. At best this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Does The Cinematic Experience really need a standalone article when it could be just a footnote at Voltes V: Legacy? And since its a recap film, its production/conceptualization background is literally the same as the TV show.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 01:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as per the reviews identified by Mushy Yank. If it's been reviewed in reliable sources then it is independently notable from the series. There are similar types of film such as Battlestar Galactica, and Duel (Steven Spielberg) which were originally shown on US TV but received international cinema distribution, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:04, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment there is no reviewed mentioned. The argument is these are compilation films. The first Haikyu!! movies which are compilation films for example don't have standalone articles, but Haikyu!! The Dumpster Battle which follows season 4 does. The production process for The Cinematic Experience is literally the same as the first 15 episodes of the TV series plus some recuts. The article as its stands is just an unnecessary and redundant. The series was produced prior to the film, although the film was released first.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 05:10, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- There are 2 reviews mentioned, and that was by me. We understand it is a compilation film, but it can be considered a notable one. If you think other film articles can be created and have reliable sources, feel free. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:41, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment there is no reviewed mentioned. The argument is these are compilation films. The first Haikyu!! movies which are compilation films for example don't have standalone articles, but Haikyu!! The Dumpster Battle which follows season 4 does. The production process for The Cinematic Experience is literally the same as the first 15 episodes of the TV series plus some recuts. The article as its stands is just an unnecessary and redundant. The series was produced prior to the film, although the film was released first.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 05:10, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: It was covered by various independent sources Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:52, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment are users ignoring how this film are a direct derivative of the first episodes of Voltes V: Legacy? Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:37, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- No, users are not. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment are users ignoring how this film are a direct derivative of the first episodes of Voltes V: Legacy? Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:37, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: the article is well sourced, and the article of Voltes V: Legacy is already large enough, for a separate article like this to exist.Hotwiki (talk) 10:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Aside from the review in The Philippine Star and PEP.ph, the movie shares the same development/production process as the film (the film is the repackaged episodes), shares the same cast. There is not much "unique information" about the films. Everything about Voltes V: Legacy the series applies to the film except the episode list and the cast members who appeared past episode 15. Any unique information of The Ciniematic Experience and the upcoming Japanese version can be briefly mentioned on Voltes V: Legacy's Theatrical cut version. We do not need an article about a compilation film based on WP:ROUTINE coverage which can be adequately mentioned on a subsection. The TV series is clearly the "main IP" here despite the film being released earlier. Remember the produced the whole series in full and not shoot is as they go like Philippine typical soap dramas areHariboneagle927 (talk) 03:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This article has significantly changed since its AfD nomination. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:21, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note: the article was created trough AfC and accepted by User:SafariScribe (courtesy notification).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:21, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:NFILM as a standalone article with sources presented above, despite being a recap of the V5L series. They're reliable and in-depth enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 08:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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