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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 09:40, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vladas Knašius Basketball School[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP, specifically WP:SIRS, WP:CORPDEPTH as well as the general WP:SIGCOV. The current ref are about several alumi and are not significant but nothing to indicate why the school is notable. No real WP:SECONDARY sources. scope_creepTalk 14:27, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Schools, Basketball, and Lithuania. Shellwood (talk) 15:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – it is exactly as the nom describes. Atsme 💬 📧 01:57, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete per nom and Atsme. The current refs for article aren't SIGCOV and fail to meet WP:NCORP. VickKiang (talk) 02:03, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Undelete As discussed before this page has a various articles from various news sites about the academy and it’s achievments. It is also a semi-professional basketball team which plays in Third Lithuanian basketball division. In my opinion sources do meet requirments for notability, if not are you able to provide examples of what is acceptable source for a sports team/academy. Not all sources discuss only alumni of the academy, Source [4] discusses season achievments of the academy along all age groups, Source [10] discusses accolades in Jr. NBA Lithuania, which is franchise of notable basketball organisation, as well as Source [11] discusses Champions at International level. Paulmafija (talk) 13:09, 8 September 2022 (BST)
None of the references are about the school itself, its all other stuff. scope_creepTalk 13:13, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thats not true, e.g [1] solely speaks about school it’s history and school itself. Schools achievments in other articles are about school and not individual alumni on other articles like this one [2]. But I do agree that majority of sources do speak about existing alumni competing at international level, but that just adds on to notability of the school, I agree that it is not necessarily acceptable source. But some are. Paulmafija (talk) 9:40, 9 September 2022 (BST)

References

  1. ^ "Vlado Knašiaus krepšinio mokyklai – šūsnis laurų". Atviraklaipeda.lt (in Lithuanian). Retrieved 5 March 2022.
  2. ^ "Klaipėdiečiams – Europos jaunimo krepšinio lygos auksas". Atviraklaipeda.lt (in Lithuanian). Retrieved 5 March 2022.
That first reference looks and reads like a press-release and the 2nd one is about the under-16 team. Again a passing-mention. I'm not filled with confidence that there is any significant, independent and reliable WP:SECONDARY coverage for this. Certainly there is a lot of passing mentions but that is not enough to pass WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 12:29, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have included two more references both from major newsites in Lithuania [1][2]. In my understanding even first reference provided on this talk is sufficient. I may be wrong but I believe the school/academy/team is worth beeing on wikipedia. Maybe under other category or as BC Neptūnas sub-page as the school is part of three tier basketball pyramid in Klaipėda.

Paulmafija (talk) 18:22, 12 September 2022 (BST)

References

  1. ^ "Lietuvos Krepšinio Rinktinių Pagrindas užauga uostamiestyje". Eurobasket.lt (in Lithuanian). Retrieved 12 September 2022.
  2. ^ "Klaipėdoje oficialiai atidaryta V.Knašiaus krepšinio mokykla". Krepsinis.net (in Lithuanian). Retrieved 12 September 2022.
The first reference there is an interview with the director:For ten years, every day, we emphasize that quality is important to us, not quantity," says Stasys Kaupys, director of the V. Knašius Basketball School. - We have to cultivate talents that would help the Lithuanian national teams. Sometimes not a single very talented child grows up in ten years, but sometimes dozens of them grow up. Here everything is determined by the constellations. So that WP:ORGIND and WP:SIRS as it not secondary coverage. The 2nd reference is a press-release and is non-rs, fails WP:SIRS and WP:CORPDEPTH. Again, not a single one of these is a secondary that is reliable, independent and significant that is explicitly about the school itself. No real coverage of why the school is important enough to be notable. scope_creepTalk 20:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for failing WP:CORPDEPTH and broad geographic coverage. Checking these citations was a bit tough as they are in Lithuanian and had to be run through machine translation. Four ve-lt citations write about players successes and only mention in passing the basketball school. Same with the two delfi.lt citations. These appear to be local sources which are reporting youth sports. mkl.lt might not be an accurate link as it has no mention of the school. krepsinis.net is about the opening of a new arena. While I didn't review them all I'm not seeing where the school is getting broad independent coverage. The comments above seem to pleed, "Please don't take this article away because their students are doing so well." While that may be true their success has not yet translated into independent coverage for the school itself.Blue Riband► 14:18, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Lacks in-depth coverage to meet WP:NCORP. MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:01, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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