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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Consensus is sufficiently clear that sources supporting criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia are not available for this subject. I note that a "keep" vote baldly asserting that the company meets the appropriate standards is given little weight towards countering this. BD2412 T 04:28, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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Small and relatively new (2016) virtual-reality studio. Does not meet notability criteria for companies. Eostrix (talk) 09:17, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
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- My goal here is to list an interesting tech business which is notable in the context of Denmark. I didn't include these additional sources in the article as I thought it would seem unnecessarily promotional: Børsen article and Red bull article. But maybe they will help the assessment of this article. Anotherpersoncalledmichael (talk) 13:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Anotherpersoncalledmichael, the kind of coverage that would be helpful to establish notability (explained in detail at WP:GNG and WP:NCORP) would be articles with significant analysis of the subject published in independent, reliable sources, such as newspapers or academic journals. Note that multiple such examples are generally required. signed, Rosguill talk 23:28, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, I was unable to find significant coverage in independent sources. signed, Rosguill talk 23:28, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 22:56, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 22:56, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep. The company is sufficiently well covered in the Danish press.--Ipigott (talk) 13:11, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. The company meets notability standard.--May♡♡→♡℃※Talk 13:25, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails NCORP. Average run-of-the-mill VR/AR startup. There is no "enduring notability as it is likely WP:TOOSOON. Over 60% of these startups will fail. The company has 18 employees. Considering Facebook has purchased AR startup "Scape Technologies" for $40M and Google has invested $502 Million in Magic Leap, this is a very small company and Wikipedia is not an advertisement or yellow pages vehicle. Wikipedia is also not a "whos who" in the business world. The sources are not independent if information comes from a company news release. A search returned that the company only produces $1.5M in revenue and is not even ranked. The "sources" I found are not independant or substantial to advance notability. WP:NEXIST includes:
However, once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive...
so stating that "The company is sufficiently well covered in the Danish press.", is not actually "sufficient". -- Otr500 (talk) 01:15, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete Well stated Otr500, we don't count !votes to reach consensus. I am unable to locate any significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, references to date fail the criteria for establishing notability, topic therefore fails GNG/WP:NCORP. HighKing++ 19:46, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Summed up well by Otr500. I can't find significant coverage personally, but recognise that perhaps it's covered better in Danish sources (though, I personally wouldn't know where to start with that). Editors above, stating that it's well covered in Danish press, have failed to provide any sources. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you all for your efforts! I've made a quick list below of independent sources that I could find (predominantly Danish press) to help with the decision making process. I would say this demonstrates significant coverage from independent sources. Anotherpersoncalledmichael (talk) 11:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Virtual reality er klar til at blive fast del af konferencer - Børsen is like the financial times of Denmark. It's a really good, independant source.
- NNIT i nyt partnerskab om virtual og augmented reality - Another article in Børsen
- Experience the Red Bull Stratos jump with these AR and VR technologies - Virsabi made a VR experience for Red Bull and the Louisiana Museum of Modern Art
- Ambitionen er at hjælpe vores kunder ind i den digitale tidsalder - This is from the Danish Chamber of Commerce
- DSB får tre leverandører af VR- og AR-teknologi: Se dem her - This is about them supplying DSB with virtual and augmented reality services
- Teknologiens Dag med vilde tiltag: Andreas Mogensens rumkapsel lander i Universe - This has information about virsabi creating an experience for a danish theme park called Universe
- Valcon partners with Danish AR and VR specialist Virsabi - This is about virsabi partnering with a big Danish firm called Valcon. It reads like a press release though.
- Digital Reality – Er jeres virksomhed parat til VR/AR/MR-teknologi?, Startup your Business and DI’s udvalg for digital forretningsudvikling - Articles from the Confederation of Danish Industry
- I'm not seeing anything that's both significant and independent across the unpaywalled sources, which at best leaves us with the first Borsen piece and the ComputerWorld DK piece. I'm skeptical that this meets WP:ORGCRITE and the collection of other sources provided here that fall short of providing significant, independent coverage don't fill me with optimism about the sources I was unable to read. signed, Rosguill talk 17:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Further relist to allow review of the provided sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 13:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Further relist to allow review of the provided sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 13:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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