Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vincent Chauvet

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 01:03, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Vincent Chauvet

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self promotion of unknown politician Bilaab (talk) 23:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

• Keep - a conflict of interest isn't a reason for deletion. That said, I can't see how the editor in question has a conflict of interest anyway - he or she would not seem to be the person in question. I can see how the subject might be a borderline case of WP:NPOL but which of the sources do you suggest are not significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that the subject doesn't pass WP:GNG? St★lwart¹¹¹ 21:47, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:02, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:02, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

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There not one single serious source in the article that "addresses the topic directly and in detail". The only sources which are directly about Mr Chauvet come from very small regional gazettes. Acrithène (talk) 01:35, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

• Keep - thank you St★lwart¹¹¹ - agree. Shouldn't we create a list of Activists-related deletion discussions for cases like this?--Valedictorii (talk) 12:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

That might be a tad narrow - but we could always ask one of the experts (like • Gene93k) for some guidance. St★lwart¹¹¹ 23:03, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

• Keep - Basic WP:GNG met I think. Also seems to meet notability in WP:ACADEMIC for passing "Average Professor test" and WP:NPOL : "Leaders of registered political parties at the national or major sub-national (state, province, prefecture, etc.) level. (...) Politicians who (a) represent a historic first (...) or (b) have received national or international press coverage, e.g. for acting as a spokesperson on a major political issue. LaFayettePolitico (talk) 15:12, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

• Delete I wonder how the authors can argue that Mr Chauvet passes the "Average Professor test". From my understanding, he was some kind of a TA for a MOOC of HEC Paris (I am myself teaching there), and has no published any research. An average professor does not even have a PhD ? Mr Chauvet is not (yet) a notable political leader as the article suggests.

With regards to the fact that "Vincent Chauvet headed the student protest movement against a new policy enforced by Interior Minister Claude Guéant to massively reject work visa applications for foreign students forcing them to leave France after graduation", : It seems that Mister Chauvet was indeed a leader of a group named "Collectif 31 mai" which takes part to the protest. This does not mean that Mister Chauvet headed the movement. In the French wikipédia, a user named "Lordvince" (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Lordvince) who claims to be a graduate from HEC, Science Po and Sorbonne (so probably Vincent Chauvet himself according to his biography) is a major contributor to articles that are related to the "circulaire" of Mister Guéant, and defended the article on his own "Collectif 31 mai" against deletion (the article was however deleted : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Collectif_31_mai/Suppression).

Lordvince is also one of the main editors of the article "CV anonyme" on the French wikipédia, the subject on which he "sued the Prime Minister" and on which his name is quoted (by a one time IP contributor).

User Lordvince is also one of the main contributors to https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regards_sur_la_politique, an article in which the name "Vincent Chauvet" is the second quoted.

etcetera...

While it is less obvious to show that Mr Chauvet is promoting himself on the English Wikipedia (or that political allies do it), I think what's happening on the French Wikipédia (in which there is no "Vincent Chauvet" article by the way as it would be obviously quicly deleted) raises doubts on the content of this article.

There is for the moment no serious source in the article in which Mister Chauvet is the main topic.

I react here because I was suprised to see Mr Chauvet among the notable alumni of HEC Paris, which is obviously ridiculous !

I am an occasional contributor on the French Wiki, maybe my vote does not count. --Acrithène (talk) 01:18, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

For all your analysis of WP:PROF and WP:NPOL, you've missed WP:GNG and haven't explained why the subject wouldn't meet our basic inclusion criteria. Inclusion in fr.wp or not is irrelevant. St★lwart¹¹¹ 03:10, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

• Keep:– I would have to agree with Stalwart on this. Wikipedia keep articles on the basis of notability. Subject of the article clearly meet WP:GNG. Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 07:59, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

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