Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vinc Pichel

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Michig (talk) 08:12, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vinc Pichel[edit]

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Notability has yet to be established. If he gets a fight against a bigger name opponent, then recreate the page. JonnyBonesJones (talk) 07:31, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 08:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails WP:NMMA. --LlamaAl (talk) 22:08, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep If I read that correctly he won three exhibition fights on television. Then fought again on a notable card. Passes GNG I'd say. Also see WP:TUF for an explanation as to why TUF fights matter and should count towards the 3 fight guidline. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 10:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 16:43, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete — Fails WP:NMMA. Poison Whiskey 00:30, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep PASSES WP:NMMA. He has particicpated in 5 professional fights put on by the UFC, and he only needed 3. Way more than enough. Willdawg111 (talk) 15:22, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This is not about being a MMA fan. We should respect policies and guidelines whether we like them or not. --LlamaAl (talk) 05:50, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Response: He is a UFC fighter. I was just pointing out that anybody who is even a casual fan would know most of these guys that are being recomended for deletion, so there is no doubt about them being a notable figure. I'm just in shock right now. We have a couple guys who I don't think have created a single MMA article going around trying to recomend everything for deletion. I am participating because I'm heavily involved in MMA and very passonate about it. I guess I just don't understand why people are doing this.Willdawg111 (talk) 15:29, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NMMA, isn't inherently notable just because he's a UFC fighter. CaSJer (talk) 21:56, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NMMA because he doesn't have the top tier fights required. Jakejr (talk) 23:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:NMMA. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 21:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Again, fails WP:NMMA. --TreyGeek (talk) 03:16, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Everybody saying that he fails WP:NMMA needs to go back and look at it again. It only requires the fights to be put on by a top tier organization and to be professional. TUF fights fall under that category (eventhough they are refered to as exhibition, that only means they aren't reported to the ABC in time to be put on their official, permanent record). If you don't like the way WP:NMMA is setup, then you are going to need to talk about changing it, but never the less, until it is changed, TUF fights are included, which means this article should never have been brought up for deletion. Willdawg111 (talk) 15:22, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, if you look at the original discussions at WT:MMANOT you'll see that TUF fights were specifically excluded with the possible exception of the finale. You should also notice that none of the MMA websites include those fights in their record since they're considered exhibition bouts. Jakejr (talk) 20:57, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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