Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vicca (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker ^talk 17:20, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Vicca

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Fails GNG & PORNBIO. The AVN award is scene related in performing in a film that won awards does not confer notability. Other sources all appear primary Spartaz ^Humbug! 00:19, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:PORNBIO, WP:BIO, and WP:GNG. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - notable: Penthouse Pet, she also modeled for Playboy, won - AVN Award, Hot d'Or and other. Meets of WP:PORNBIO, WP:BIO and also - notable, in general. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 08:32, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- actually, she has only won a scene award van. The other awards are films she performed in that were added to puff out her article.Spartaz ^Humbug! 08:45, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as she won the 1997 AVN Award for "Best Solo Sex Scene" (which is an individual award) and was a penthouse pet she passes WP:PORN. Plus she seems to have a parallel career in mainstream B movies. -- fdewaele, 29 July 2015, 11:22 CET.

1) awards are not a criteria that satisfies WP:PORNBIO, as it plainly says at that link; rubbing one out by oneself is still la "scene". 2) Penthouse Pets are not inherently notable, they must still pass WP:N. 3) As for the parallel career in mainstream B movies, what in this rich filmography qualifies, exactly? Once we weed out the "Sodomania Slop Shots 3", "Cumback Pussy 2 " and so on, then we're left with Secret Agent 420, where "Ivanka" is billed in the "rest of cast listed alphabetically" section. Tarc (talk) 13:32, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The "Best Solo Sex Scene" award win is scene-related and does not count for passing WP:PORNBIO. Being a Penthouse Pet does not establish notability either. Lacks significant reliable source coverage to pass WP:GNG. Brief mentions in Adult Video News are not enough. • Gene93k (talk) 12:26, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as Gene93k said. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 18:19, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as fails PORNBIO & GNG. –Davey2010^Talk 00:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Scene awards are explicitly excluded from WP:PORNBIO. Subject's "movie career", such as it is, consists of all porn, softcore, and bit parts in 1-2 quasi-legit films. Tarc (talk) 13:32, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails PORNBIO, there are quite a few other little bits like the two awards, Playboy and Penthouse appearances and some B movies, but it all looks more like attention seeking than attention getting. Web searches indicate that the mainstream media continue to ignore her. Kraxler (talk) 15:11, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Concur with Tarc. Finnegas (talk) 23:45, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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