Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Viacheslav Vershinin

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 00:13, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Viacheslav Vershinin

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I originally used WP:PROD but it was removed by another editor so I will use this method. This is an insufficiently noteworthy scientist whom fails to meet WP:PROF guidelines, as outlined in the below section

Arguments for Deletion

1. The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.

• No. This individual does not have a google scholar page nor can I find an h-score via that. However, ResearchGate shows he has close to 60 publications, and has been cited around 150 times. Another source Publons states he has an h-score of 6. Considering he has been a prof for more than 30 years, this is pretty bad and unremarkable and does not come close to the standard.

I fully agree, but it's worth noting that the "standard" varies with the discipline. For a chemist h = 6 is pretty poor, but would OK (I think) for someone whose publications mainly concerned mediaeval Persian poetry, for example. Athel cb (talk) 13:25, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

2.The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.

• Likely No. He appears to recently won one national award in Russia, (requires google translate) but it does not strike me as high honor within Russia, and I could not find another source to verify this (this is difficult due to all sources being in russian. Google translate is decent but it is still hard to navigate). He does not appear to have won any international awards.

3. The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers).

• No. Difficult to totally verify, and he does seem to have joined some socieities, but none that would meet the standards of this criteria.

4. The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions.

• No. He seems well respected and regarded, but I could not verify this as significant or influential, only simply praised.

5. The person has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon.

• No. I could not find any mention of this, again language limitations make this difficult.

6. The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.

• No. Does not seem to be the case, and could not find anything.

7. The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity.

• No. Also does not seem to be the case, maybe on a local level but that is not significant enough.

8. The person has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area.

• No. Could not find evidence of this either.

References

Other Comments

Of note, this article appears to be a simple direct translation from Russian wiki: ru:Вершинин, Вячеслав Исаакович. It seems to me like he is locally respected, and has some national recognition in Russia particularly due to his longevity in his field and teaching, it doesn't reach far enough to be noteworthy. Further, his research impact seems quite low and failed to reach an international stage. The fact that nearly all sources and information on this individual are in Russian makes it difficult to entirely verify, as well as create a wiki article with sources readers could easily verify for themselves.

These reasons, combined with not meeting the bar for WP:PROF leads me to believe this article should be deleted. If a russian-fluent individual can dispute my findings then this could be kept, but based on my own searching I don't think I am missing anything major that would warrant keeping the article.

Please share your thoughts, thanks.

Tautomers (talk) 20:25, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:58, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:59, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

• Comment. See Scopus Preview entry and this Google Scholar search. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:17, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Comment. Thank you, those results are in agreement with what I found and state in the argument section. I will be making use of Scopus in the future. Tautomers_{(T C)} 02:20, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

• Delete. This is a better Google Scholar search than the one above, but it still doesn't provide high enough citation counts to provide evidence of passing WP:PROF#C1, and we also have no evidence of other forms of notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
• Keep. The Russian article says he was named Honoured Professor at Omsk State University in 2013. That would seem to satisfy WP:ACADEMIC #5. Membership of the Scientific Council of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine may well also meet #3. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:59, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

  Necrothesp, is there a reliable source for the Honoured Professor title? Russ Woodroofe (talk) 16:50, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

  Comment There is apparently a page for it on russian wiki: ru:Заслуженный профессор and it simply translate to emeritus in meaning from what I can tell. As such the title would not satisfy criteria 5. As for the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine he seems to only have membership, which wouldn't satisfy criteria 3. As such, he seems to still fail to meet all 8 criteria of WP:PROF. --Tautomers_{(T C)} 20:36, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

• Delete does not meet any of the academic inclusion criteria. Honored professor is not something that meets number 5. I am coming to think that even named chairs in some cases have become so ubiquitous that holding them making someone notable no longer really makes sense.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:09, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete. Scopus gives him an h-index of 6 and only 143 citations, far from enough to meet C1, and he doesn't appear to meet any other NPROF or GNG criteria. JoelleJay (talk) 00:17, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete. My assessment of potential WP:NPROF C3 agrees with that of Tautomers. It doesn't sound like any WP:NPROF C5 holds. He did have birthday conferences in his honor, which usually suggests notability, but I don't see signs of NPROF C1 or C6 or similar notability to back that up (and the birthday conferences do not and should not in themselves suffices). No sign of WP:NPROF C1 or of non-NPROF criteria. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 07:52, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete: As per nom.As it doesn't passed the general notability guidelines.(Fade258 (talk) 16:28, 1 July 2021 (UTC))

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