Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Venus Airlines

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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:43, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Venus Airlines[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP. No third party coverage of the airline. Had need verification tag since 2013 with little changes. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 00:58, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Defunct airlines AFDs:

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Note: This discussion has been mentioned at Wikipedia:WikiProject Airlines --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 20:41, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the airline clearly existed and operated flights the lack of referencing should have been raised for improvment and is not a reason to delete. MilborneOne (talk) 14:24, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
MilborneOne, all the links are dead and I can't find any third-party coverage required by WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 16:50, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not a reason to delete it just needs some work doing to it, it has flown services using an aircraft as big as the Boeing 757 so is noteworthy for inclusion. MilborneOne (talk) 16:57, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well not all operational companies are worthy of inclusion. There are tons of charter airline companies but not all of them are on Wikipedia. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 17:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest that very few that have operated aircraft the size of the Boeing 737 or 757 are missing, if there is we need create some new articles. MilborneOne (talk) 17:04, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The article provides no evidence that the subject is notable. Maproom (talk) 08:44, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not clear why you think an airline that operated 200-seat airliners is not somehow of note. MilborneOne (talk) 16:46, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep an airline of this size and with this equipment would have significant coverage available, but due to the historic period these would be paper refs, which need to be located. Article needs improving, not deleting. - Ahunt (talk) 20:46, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ahunt, well it had the needs verification tag since 2013 and 6 years is a long period of time for reference to be found. Given that nobody did that, it would stand to reason that there is none. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 21:18, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Six years is not really a long time in wiki terms, unless somebody brought it to the attention of the project it is unlikely to be noticed. They are 1978 articles in Category:Articles needing additional references from April 2013 among the 360,000 articles tagged. Hardly a go to place. Tagged articles go back to 2006 so the six years is not really significant or relevant. If you find such articles it would be better to go to the relevant project and ask "hey this article needs some refs, anybody help" and give them a chance to improve it rather than AfD straight away. MilborneOne (talk) 23:09, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That comes under WP:BEFORE an AFD is started, sections "C" and "D". - Ahunt (talk) 12:53, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ahunt, well I had checked Google news and all the other sources listed in the "find source" section but nothing came up.

Also, it had been tagged with needs improvement since 2013, so there's plenty of time for the article to be improved. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 13:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not one of the references in the article satisfy WP:CORPIND. In my BEFORE I was unable to find INDEPTH reliable secondary sources. a short-lived (4 years) small (at peak - 8 aircraft) charter company could plausibly be notable, but it is not a situation where we should presume notability. The dewiki says this was a joint venture with Nordic European Airlines - possibly a merge of some content could be done to there. Icewhiz (talk) 12:39, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 17:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DannyS712 (talk) 04:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete does not meet WP:NCORP; significant RS coverage not found. An unremarkable charter airline. These are rarely kept at AfD, unlike scheduled passenger airlines. K.e.coffman (talk) 17:45, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nom. Britishfinance (talk) 01:41, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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