Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Veena Sood

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The result was keep. Sandstein 07:11, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Veena Sood[edit]

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WP:BLP of an actress, not reliably sourcing any strong claim to passing WP:NACTOR. This was deleted by PROD in 2018 for lacking WP:GNG-worthy sources and then recreated in 2020, but the sources present now aren't an improvement: out of six footnotes, three are IMDb-style film directories that aren't support for notability at all, two are podcasts and the only one that actually comes from a real media outlet just briefly namechecks her existence in an article about her cousin Ashwin's divorce from Sarah McLachlan, and thus isn't about Veena for the purposes of establishing Veena's notability. As always, actors are not automatically entitled to have articles just because it's possible to verify that they exist -- the notability test requires evidence of third-party media coverage about her to establish the significance of her performances, not just film directories and interviews where she's talking about herself in the first person on podcasts. Bearcat (talk) 14:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 14:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 14:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - she is an award winning[1] (UBCP/ACTRA’s Sam Payne Award in 2014, the Lorena Gale Woman of Distinction Award in 2017, a 2018 Leo Award nomination for Best Performance in a Music, Comedy, or Variety Program or Series, and a 2019 recipient of The North Shore Fund Award and The Sam Payne Award for her accomplishments as an actress, and contributions to the creative community) and internationally recognized actress, who was given 131 credits for her TV show appearances in about 20 years and appeared in 27 movies. She was named among 100 most influential people in BC. [2]. Everytime she is mentioned in a piece of new she is referred as an award winning actress. [3]. I think the sum of all of the above easily let her pass WP:ANYBIO in my books. Kolma8 (talk) 16:56, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not every award that exists is always an automatic "notable because award-winning" freebie. In order to be an award that makes its winners notable for winning it, that award has to be a top-level award that gets broad media coverage — Oscar, Emmy, BAFTA, Canadian Screen Award, that sort of thing — and ANYBIO does not just indiscriminately keep everybody who's ever won just any award that exists. All of the awards you named in your rationale would be perfectly fine to mention in an article that was well-sourced, but exactly zero of them are "inherently" notable enough to exempt Veena Sood from having to pass WP:GNG on her sourceability just because the body text has the word "award" in it.

And when it comes to "notable because she's had roles", even that still requires reliable source coverage about her and her performances, and is not automatically passed just because any particular number of roles can be listed. Bearcat (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:39, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kieran207(talk-Contribs) 01:47, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- Seems to be a notable actress but sources may not be reliable , add more related sources. Georgeart01 (talk) 23:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The new sources you've added haven't changed anything. We're not just looking for sources that glancingly verify the fact that she's had roles, by briefly mentioning her name in a film's cast list but failing to contain any substantive content about her performance — we're looking for sources that single her out for special attention that goes well above and beyond just having her name mentioned in them: news articles about her, film reviews that zero in on her performance being a standout part of the film, and on and so forth. Bearcat (talk) 21:57, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - seems to me like a borderline case for meeting GNG, but just on the right side. Some sources I found:

Calgary's own comedy: 40 years of hilarity with Loose Moose; Newspaper; August 18, 2017 | StarMetro Calgary (Alberta, Canada); Author: Aaron Chatha. (Article is about Loose Moose - includes some paragraphs about Sood.)
Performing Asian Canadian in Vancouver; Yhap, Beverly.Canadian Theatre Review Iss. 85, (Winter 1995): 5-8. (Sood was one of four people interviewed for the article, again some paragraphs specifically relating to her.)
FEELING MINNEAPOLIS - CANDIDATE CO-STAR HAS PRINCELY TIE; July 26, 2004; Calgary Sun, The (Alberta, Canada); Author: LOUIS B. HOBSON, CALGARY SUN. (Around 350 words specifically about Sood)
There are also some brief commentaries on her performances in periodicals like The Village Voice and Variety, which wouldn't be enough to meet GNG on their own.

Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:08, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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