Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vasily Gryaznov

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep and clean up ck lostsword•T•C 10:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vasily Gryaznov

Incoherent translated article about a marginal individual. Speedy tag was declined by admin Wafulz. Shalom ^Hello 19:56, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: this is about a local saint recognized in 1999 (the monastery needs something to attract visitors). The version on ru: is equally lousy as the one here, it originally comes (with permission) from another website (warning: that website may be infected, it was trying to break into my computer).

Both the monastery and the saint are IMHO notable. Whether anything from the current text is salvageable is a question. Pavel Vozenilek 23:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and cleanup. It's a badly written article, but saints are in my opinion always notable. He's mentioned on many Church sites ([1] and [2], for instance) so verifiability is not a problem. Note: I moved an apology off the main page onto the talk page - such things shouldn't be on the main page. --Charlene 01:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that there's nothing in the article to start from. Some information about the person is on the page of the town Pavlovsky Posad. Pavel Vozenilek 11:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and start over, as it appears unsalvageable and as noted above, contains infected text. Bearian 19:22, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 13:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 13:38, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and stubify - The subject is notable, and as a saint, I'd expect reliable sources could be found. The article contents, as they stand, are completely incoherent, and so removing it all and turing it into a stub would be appropriate. -- Whpq 16:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - subject also appears to have been the subject of a 1924 film Elder Vasily Gryaznov as per the page at http://www.inter-film.org/pdf/Databank_Ron_Hollway.pdf. Article clearly needs cleanup and referencing, though. John Carter 21:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I had a go at changing a bit to make it more readable, but there's still heaps missing Guycalledryan 08:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems better. ¿SFGiДnts! ^{¿Complain! ¿Analyze! ¿Review!} 21:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. --MaNeMeBasat 09:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.