Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Varun Sardesai

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sources don't seem to meet WP:SIGCOV. ansh 666 08:35, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Varun Sardesai[edit]

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Non-notable politician, I see some passing mentions but there is no significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and fails WP:NPOL. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:26, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:37, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:37, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Article Meets the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources" like Mid Day [1], Times of India [2], Hindustan Times [3], The Asian Age [4] these are independent sources of the subject of the article. Act345 (talk) 02:21, 10 July 2018 (UTC) — Act345 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

The sources you provided above are nothing more than passing mentions which is not what Wikipedia seeks for a biographical article also do you mind if I ask whether you're a returning user? Or are you really a new user? GSS (talk|c|em) 04:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GSS Yes i am a returning user here to know more kindly see my user page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Act345 and let's back to the point i am wondering if above references are "passing mentions" than please let me know what is "significant coverage" according to you, please let me know may be i missed something while reading WP:GNG that you can make me understand, i would be happy to know & i will also discuss about WP:GNG & Which are reliable references these days at Teahouse. Thanks for your valuable comment about my edits. That will help me to learn more. you are doing well god bless you :)Act345 (talk) 15:24, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the disclosure but you still need to disclose your previous account, and "significant" means it can't be a bunch of trivial mentions the sources should provide in-depth coverage of the subject, not just an in-passing mention or name drop. GSS (talk|c|em) 18:23, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep Seems notable, i could find only few references reliable so can keep for now Heshiv (talk) 12:32, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Heshiv: Seems notable? can you provide some sources that you think support notability as per WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. GSS (talk|c|em) 13:31, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@GSS: see these http://www.saamana.com/yuva-sena-unit-in-patangrao-kadam-collage-in-pen, http://www.saamana.com/yuvasena-college-unit-at-joshi-bedekar-college, http://www.saamana.com/yuva-sena-asks-the-education-minister-about-the-mess-in-mumbai-university all published in Saamana Heshiv (talk) 04:42, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The links you provided above are insufficient to support notability, please read what Bearcat has explained below. GSS (talk|c|em) 05:02, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:NPOL, has not been elected to any office. All trivial mentions about him in the sources provided and there is no inherent notability in being a General Secretary of the Yuva Sena which is actually the youth wing of the Shiv Sena. In my opinion it is WP:TOSOON to warrant a standalone article on Wikipedia. Fit India 14:34, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Nothing here passes WP:NPOL, and the sources represent glancing namechecks of his existence in articles about other things rather than coverage that is substantively about him for the purposes of getting over WP:GNG. People do not automatically qualify for Wikipedia articles the moment their name has appeared in newspaper articles — for a source to count as a data point toward getting a person over GNG, he needs to be its core subject and not just namechecked or soundbited in coverage whose core subject is something else. Bearcat (talk) 16:20, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep GSS this is my first work (page) & new here too so please don't bite me WP:BITE, WP:NEWBIES & you are also discouraging me to contribute on Wikipedia, is this your way of contributing to discourage (bite) new users, i know you may have years experience as a Wikipedian but that does't not mean you will do whatever you want to do i mean i followed Wikipedia guidelines check this one Wikipedia:Common_claims_of_significance_or_importance before creating this page. please take your work (action) seriously because other new users also spending their valuable time to improve the Wikipedia for good causes. If you really want to be a helpful hand than you can help to expand This article.

Hindi translation of above text जीएसएस यह मेरा पहला काम (पृष्ठ) है और यहां भी नया है इसलिए कृपया मुझे काट न दें WP: BITE, WP: NEWBIES और आप मुझे विकिपीडिया पर योगदान देने के लिए भी निराश कर रहे हैं, क्या यह आपका तरीका है नए उपयोगकर्ताओं को हतोत्साहित करने में योगदान देने के लिए, मुझे पता है कि आपके पास विकिपीडिया के रूप में वर्षों का अनुभव हो सकता है लेकिन इसका मतलब यह नहीं है कि आप जो कुछ भी करना चाहते हैं वह करेंगे, मेरा मतलब है कि मैंने विकिपीडिया दिशानिर्देशों का पालन किया है [[विकिपीडिया: Common_claims_of_significance_or_importance] ] इस पृष्ठ को बनाने से पहले। कृपया अपना काम (एक्शन) गंभीरता से लें क्योंकि अन्य नए उपयोगकर्ता अच्छे कारणों से विकिपीडिया को बेहतर बनाने के लिए अपना मूल्यवान समय भी खर्च करते हैं। यदि आप वास्तव में एक सहायक हाथ बनना चाहते हैं तो आप इस आलेख को विस्तारित करने में सहायता कर सकते हैं। [[उपयोगकर्ता: Riblitoje (talk) 13:26, 12 July 2018 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Riblitoje (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]

The "Don't bite the newbies" principle is not a free immunization against your work getting deleted if it doesn't follow our rules and standards. It just means we have to address you politely, not that we have to exempt you from the rules of the place. Bearcat (talk) 18:55, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Despite the ref-bombing there is no evidence of significant independent coverage. Most of the cited refernces say absolutely nothing about the subject and his name appears only in the form of "Spokesperson for the Yuva Sena Varun Sardesai" said "..."; or noting that he was present somewhere; or that he may run for something. Best of all: This cited opinion column is not even about Varun Sardesai but about Varun Gandhi!

The sole exception is this gossipy piece in the Mumbai Metro supplement of Asian Age, which would hardly suffice (also, as has been noted during previous discussions at WP:RSN, we should be very careful/averse to using the local supplements of even mainstream Indian newspapers as sources, since they are given to celebrity gossip, low/non-existent fact-checking, and lightly-editing reprinting of press releases). Abecedare (talk) 16:55, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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