Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vanden Plas 1500/1750

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, through a careful reading of overall consensus, but with no consensus as to any fitting redirect. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vanden Plas 1500/1750

It's not a notable model, I don't see why it needs a whole article, it may as well just sit within the 'parent' article with all the other model types. Ged UK (talk) 13:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(copying over from article discussion page)I respectfully disagree with the deletion request. The Vanden Plas model had a different nameplate to the Allegro, was finished in a different factory and was issued a different brochure. I believe that for the purposes of official government tests (fuel economy etc) the models were considered distinct from the Allegro, but I will have to check in the brochure when I dig it out.

It is unfortunate that I had barely started this article when it was listed for deletion - the car has only a small mention in the main Allegro article, and I thought I would start a new article that I could expand over time.

Rfreedman81 (talk) 13:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC) (copied by Ged UK (talk) 14:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Delete the Vanden Plas is a notable brand, however we already have an article about that, and VP was a name used by British Leyland on a vast array of its cars over time - we used to own a Maestro Vanden Plas, for instance. There's nothing tremendous here that isn't already in Vanden Plas. -- Roleplayer (talk) 14:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (and merge data into Austin Allegro) — whilst I sympathise with the assertion by the article's creator that this was to some extent a different model, finished (note, not "built") in a different factory, the fact remains that the parent company was a past master at badge engineering, and for the purposes both of (a) informing the reader in an easily understandable way (in one place), and (b) of maintaining consistency amongst other BMC and BL articles regarding badge-engineered cars, we should keep the VDP models as a section of the Austin Allegro article, and expand the section. Any info which is too broad for that article probably belongs in the Vanden Plas article. I would like to see a redirect maintained from the present deletion candidate, however. – Kieran T ^(talk) 23:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Austin Allegro (as a new section), basically as suggested by Kieran T, omitting general information on the brand, retaining the present title as a redirect (as usual). Peterkingiron (talk) 21:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.