Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/VMG Telecoms Myanmar

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Except for Ko Ko Chit Chit, none of the "keep" opinions proposes or discusses relevant sources. But sources are what matters in this discussion. Sandstein 16:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VMG Telecoms Myanmar

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Not able to find anything substantial enough to establish notability. Does not meet WP:CORPDEPTH or WP:GNG. Hitro talk 09:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Hitro talk 09:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Hitro talk 09:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Myanmar-related deletion discussions. Hitro talk 09:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NORG. Gritmem (talk) 20:58, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:23, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I am unable to locate any significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, topic therefore fails GNG/WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 12:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I agree that the article requires improvement but has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources from Myanmar's biggest newspaper The Myanmar Times [1], [2], [3]. The existing source in the article can establish notability. The VMG is a major telecommunications service company in my country. The company once hold biggest telecommunications market in Myanmar and has launched a first ever licensed international Calling card, Ytalk (Once in Myanmar, Ytalk used to be more popular than Viber). When the sources are in Burmese language, it does not mean that that is not notable. If you can't read the Burmese language sources? please use the Google web-translation. Thanks "KoKoChitChit" (talk) 05:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment "Significant coverage in multiple reliable sources" is not the full extent of the requirements to establish notability. For example, you have ignored the requirement that the article must contain "Independent Content". You provided three references:
  - The Myanmar Times reference is not significant coverage, contains no in-depth information on the company and is a run-of-the-mill piece based on a company announcement. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:ORGIND.
  - This also from The Myanmar Times is based entirely on an interview with the CEO of the company, is not significant coverage and contains no in-depth information on the company. It also fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:ORGIND.
  - Also from The Myanmar Times and it compares YTalk and Viber. The article like the other two is not significant coverage and contains no in-depth information on the company. It is based on a statement from the company and a statement from the head of Myanmar Posts and Telecommunications company. The reference also fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:ORGIND.
- Just because the sources are in another language doesn't mean that our policies and guidelines on establishing notability don't apply. Please read WP:NCORP. Thank you. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Easily meets WP:GNG. No compliance with WP:Before. Understanding that this is in part because of systemic bias (language) in Wikipedia. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pointing out WP:BEFORE and WP:BIAS without giving any reason why it meets WP:GNG easily, is in fact a very weak and dubious rationale for keep. I seriously do not understand why you mentioned WP:BEFORE when there is already a delete !vote posted above. Now for your info, there are only 3 considerable sources available about this topic, all are included here or in the article. You could have known that if you have done WP:BEFORE before !voting. All the three sources have been analysed above by HighKing an hour before you !voted. None of the available sources is near WP:SIGCOV. WP:BIAS is an essay, not a policy, above all not a reason for a wild card entry into Wikipedia mainspace. Hitro talk 08:02, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning towards Delete. While the three new sources are excellent, it is still only three sources, and that to me is not exactly proof of notability. More on the cusp, potentially, for WP:CORPDEPTH? 67.243.20.177 (talk) 18:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to mention I did my own research and had no luck finding additional sources. 67.243.20.177 (talk) 18:52, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, b uidhe 21:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This company is notable with growing affiliated offices in San Francisco and Bangkok. It also operates in a number of markets and is significant due to being one of the Myanmar's first in category of telecommunications. IMO. 37.111.43.38 (talk) 17:08, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you point to any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability for those claims? That would be very helpful. HighKing⁺⁺ 15:34, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I cannot find significant coverage. I see claims about passing WP:GNG above. If someone shares the sources, I'll change my vote. --MarioGom (talk) 21:20, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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