Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Urn (band)

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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:24, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Urn (band)[edit]

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Not notable, all releases are on self-labels, no significant coverage in reliable sources. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 05:14, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 05:14, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:BAND and WP:GNG. No indication of importance or notability. Mattg82 (talk) 20:50, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – I think I've actually seen this band live during my goth days in the MIdwest. However, they fail notability. Missvain (talk) 22:44, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Can find nothing but typical retail/streaming entries and self-created social media. Note that the band and their albums are listed at AllMusic but the entries are empty. Overwhelmingly unnoticed by the media and public. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:58, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Retain - Apologies for the lack of updates, but edits have been recently made and more content will be coming forth that will/should establish the band's notability. In [WP:Band]'s Criteria for musicians and ensembles, Criteria Number 6 "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable" -Dominic St. Charles and Eric Peterson are former member of The Electric Hellfire Club which should qualify them. Cleve Hall of SyFy Channel's Monster Man has been the keyboardist since 2017 would should also qualify. Mr. Hall will have new show coming out SyFy Channel in 2020 which will feature music from the group in an episode as well as the credits. Which also leads to Criteria Number Ten: "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show...". Urn has had music already appear on A&E's Paranormal State and was used in the documentary "Biography of Vampires". We are also in talks with a record company owned by Dave Ellefson of the notable metal band Megadeth for a 2020 release. I do seek help, guidance, and assistance in terms of properly uploading all of this content as I do not consider myself an "editor". Thank you for your time and consideration and humbly request to not delete this page. Tyreal13 (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2020 (UTC)tyreal13[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: @Tyreal13: If you can provide some sources for any of the claims you mention above, I'll gladly help add them to the article. However, at a quick glance, I'm not sure The Electric Hellfire Club's article establishes their notability, either, and the wording of the TV appearance rules specify that the song is the theme or the band actually performs on the show. I did find a review of an Urn album [1], but ~~I'm not familiar enough with the site to know if this is a user-submitted review or not~~ the site uses the wording "latest reviews uploaded to our magazine" which leads me to believe these are user-submitted. An additional review is here [2] and does appear to be from a reliable source. ~~I hope someone can give some insight to the reliability of the reviews on Metal Temple, as those two could establish notability if both pass.~~ Skeletor3000 (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Thank you so kindly, deeply appreciated on many levels. The band uses a national publicist in TAG Publicity who landed the band many placements in the trade and national media. I am working to collect all of these articles with them, but one I do have at this moment is <ref> DeMarino, Nick, "Feature Interview - Urn", Outburn, Issue 52, March 2010 <ref> 71.47.254.210 (talk) 17:23, 2 February 2020 (UTC)Tyreal13[reply]

Unfortunately, interviews aren't generally viewed as contributing toward notability. Do you have any independently-published album reviews? Link 2 in my previous comment is an example of what I mean. Skeletor3000 (talk) 18:13, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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