Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tyler Sash

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The result was keep. It would be nice if someone could add the sources found by Cbl to the article. NW (Talk) 17:29, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tyler Sash[edit]

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Fails WP:ATHLETE. No assertion of notability. BLGM5 (talk) 01:56, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Clearly notable. The player is on several preseason lists for 2010 including the Lott Trophy, CFPA National Defensive Performer of the Year, and CFPA DB of the Year. I believe he also owns the interception return yards record at Iowa in a single season. (so the vote is 1-1, am I correct?)Obamafan70 (talk) 18:26, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment doesn't quite work that way, it's not really a "vote" per se. However, thank you for your comments as I believe the comments of the "newbies" are just as important as those of us experienced old knocks... welcome to Wikipedia!--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:45, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete At this point, there are nearly 50 players on each preseason watchlist. There are also thousands of players that hold school records. I do not think this college player is notable at this time. — X96lee15 (talk) 18:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:26, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:26, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Neutral~~ Keep for now... the article as written could definitely use some work--additional sources, independent sources, and so forth. And while certainly the subject is notable in the Big Ten Conference, that does not necessarily equate to notability on a global encyclopedia. However, I'm willing to reserve judgement for now and see if the article comes together. I did some research, and it's possible that there may be enough general notability to support the article.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:48, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Sold--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:58, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep This guy is a first-team All-Big Ten football player. If he played for Michigan, I would write him a WP:GA. Any first team player from a BCS conference can keep his article until a year after his eligibility expires.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:51, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- So you're saying that if he doesn't play in the NFL after college, then his article can be deleted? By that logic, then he isn't notable now. — X96lee15 (talk) 03:40, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Whether he ever plays in the NFL or not, his notability is established by extensive non-trivial coverage in the mainstream press. Examples include: (1) Oskaloosa Herald, February 28, 2010, Tyler Sash, a true sportsman; (2) Omaha World-Herald, January 2, 2010, Iowa fan favorite: @#!%* Sash!; (3) Omaha World-Herald, January 2, 2010, Sash's TD stands out in wild year, (4) The Gazette, December 9, 2009, Tyler Sash a first-team All-America according to CBSsports.com, (5) Quad-City Times, November 6, 2009, SASH-MARKS Safety climbing school record charts for interceptions; (6) Newton Daily News, November 5, 2009, Iowa’s Tyler Sash named Jim Thorpe semifinalist; (7) McClatchy-Tribune Regional News (USA), November 1, 2009, Sash pick starts miraculous Iowa day, (8) Oskaloosa Herald, November 1, 2009, Sash’s “Pick Six” helps Hawkeyes rally past Hoosiers, (9) Telegraph Herald (Dubuque, IA), September 15, 2009, Sash honored; ISU faces road streak, (10) Quad-City Times, September 14, 2009, Iowa's Sash takes honor, (11) The Gazette, September 13, 2009, Defense was Sash-and-burn, (12) McClatchy-Tribune Regional News (USA), September 13, 2009, Three picks make Sash the 'oskie'master: Oskaloosa native ties Iowa interception record in win, (13) Oskaloosa Herald, August 9, 2009, Sash anxious to return to playing field, (14) The Gazette (Cedar Rapids-Iowa City, IA), January 2, 2009, Red-shirt freshman Sash provides spark, (15) McClatchy-Tribune Regional News (USA), January 2, 2009, Iowa defense continues to show power: Sash has two interceptions , (16) Omaha World-Herald (NE), January 2, 2009, Hawkeyes' safety Sash shows progress, (17) Oskaloosa Herald, January 2, 2009, Sash plays key role in Iowa’s Outback Bowl win, (18) The Quad-City Times, January 2, 2009, Iowa's Sash turns heads, momentum on defense Freshman snags 2 interceptions, (19) The State (Columbia, SC), January 2, 2009, Sash picks perfect time to progress, (20) Omaha World-Herald, November 11, 2008, Big Ten honors Hawkeyes' Sash, (21) McClatchy-Tribune Regional News (USA), September 19, 2008, Safety Sash looks back at key pick: Sash?'s interception keyed Hawks win, (22) Oskaloosa Herald, September 15, 2008, Sash had dream of a day in Iowa’s 17-5 win over ISU, (23) The Gazette (Cedar Rapids-Iowa City, IA), September 7, 2008, Sash starts ahead of Dalton, Ferentz wanted look at red-shirt freshman in a starting role, (24) Daily Gate City (Keokuk, IA), August 6, 2008, Sash looking to make impact, (25) Oskaloosa Herald, August 5, 2008, Osky’s Sash anxious to get action on gridiron for Hawkeyes, (26) Ottumwa Courier, December 16, 2009, Sash named All-American, (27) The Daily Iowan, Sash a Thorpe semifinalist, November 5, 2009, (28) Tyler “motherbleeping” Sash’s bleeping good season, January 1, 2010, Gazette. (talk) 04:32, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- comment looks like a lot of local sources that any college football player would receive. — X96lee15 (talk) 06:21, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Response Not at all. I regularly scan the AfDs for college football players and decide which ones warrant saving. Sash has WAY, WAY more coverage than they typical college football player receives. A typical player is just going to get passing references in game coverage. Sash has dozens of feature stories about him in multiple newspapers. And it's not just in the UI student newspaper. It's in dozens of papers throughout the state of Iowa and in Nebraska, South Carolina, and the McClatchy-Tribune Regional News. This guy's clearly above the notability threshold. Cbl62 (talk) 16:26, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per sources presented by Cbl62, the subject meets WP:GNG.--Giants 27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 02:31, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Looks like this one can be closed as keep. Hopefully people realize the sources found need to actually make it into the article, or the problem doesn't go away. BLGM5 (talk) 21:09, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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