Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turk Genocide

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE Babajobu 05:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Turk Genocide[edit]

Delete No sources, references, links...total fabrication. Eupator 17:54, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not NPOV; no citations, references, Wikification or sources for assertion of argument. Useless for scholastic research. -- (aeropagitica) 21:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Wikify and NPOV. total fabrication seems a bit strong if you google "Turkish Genocide" 1915 1919 Jcuk 23:56, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You should reconsider your vote, I just googled "Turkish Genocide" and 99% of the returned results were regarding the Armenian genocide. You should have actually looked at the links. There is no such thing as a "Turkish Genocide". No international body or organization knows of such a thing.--Eupator 00:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did read the articles, I just assumed it was a different name for the same event. In light of the above I withdraw my vote. Jcuk 08:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unverifiable, possible hoax. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-01-10 03:46Z
Delete no support for the existence of the event --Ajdz 04:53, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and sanction User:SerdarArgic. Haikupoet 04:58, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above Werdna648^T/_C\^@ 10:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Needs a lot of work for NPOV and sources, but potentially legitimate encyclopedic topic. Definitely not a hoax; topic exists in the literature. Lukas 12:40, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What literature? Wikipedia articles on Turkey and the Ottoman Empire don't even allude to the issue. --Ajdz 23:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He might be talking about propaganda published by Turkish fascist groups or something of the like. I'm sure we can find neo-Nazi "literature" regading the German Holocaust during WWII, please...this is not serious.--Eupator 00:40, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was thinking of works like J. McCarthy, Death and Exile - I'm aware people may consider this a fringe position, but at least it's by a more-or-less respected (?) professional, academic author outside Turkey itself. I'm not sure how his international standing in the field is. Lukas 15:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

David Irving is a more "respected" scholar than this guy. At least Irving is not financed or rewarded by revisionists. It's not that McCarthy's wife is Turkish that makes his motives biased it's the fact that he is actually paid by the Turkish government to publish his books. He was also awarded the Order of Merit of the Turkish Republic by the President of Turkey in 1998 and he got his Honorary Doctorate at Sûleyman Demirel University in Turkey. Not to mention that the book in question deals with ALL muslim deaths within the vast Empire during the war. That includes Druzes of Lebanon or the Shi'a Arabs of Iraq, Alevis of Anatolia and Syria etc. Many of those deaths were actually caused by the Ottoman Army. McCarthy is just a hired gun for Turkish interests within the U.S. Saying the Nazis were the victims of WWII falls under the category of Holocaust denial/revisionism right? Create an article for Genocide denial where this can be discussed, an article about a non-existent term and event is useless and illogical.--Eupator 20:27, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rename to Turkish Genocide. Needs references and should be developed fully. It is definetely not a hoax. There is a large body of works on the matter. Those need to be incorporated here. I intend to work on this. So, it would be better that the article is kept, because otherwise I would have to create a new one again.--TimBits 07:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.