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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 05:23, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Trukk not munky and FIRRIB[edit]

Nonnotable outside of one forum. Zoe 04:39, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

  • I thought it read "trunk monkey." A local auto mall bought a series of these deplorable, prefab TV ads featuring some idiotic thing called a trunk monkey. Open the trunk, out comes a chimp. Makes me want to buy a car there...not. Seen the same ads in other markets. Anyway, delete both as neologisms, nn. - Lucky 6.9 04:47, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are many forums that utilise this term, many of them are America centric, but are of notation nonetheless.--anon
    • We now go from trunk monkeys to sockpuppets. Next...? - Lucky 6.9 04:49, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • WHat relevance do sock puppets have to this conversation?--anon
    • Since you asked...absolutely none.  :) - Lucky 6.9 17:34, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete both as not notable neologism. A few tips - multiple contributions from very new accounts are sometime received in a hostile manner. However, cited sources that demonstrate notabilty are welcome from any contributor. (And please use ~~~~.) brenneman(t)(c) 05:04, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • People use this term all the time. I could find over two hundred if I took the time.
  • "Non-notable outside one forum" is false. These are established terms throughout the whole Transformers fandom. "Non-notable outside one fandom" would be correct. Keep or merge with Transformers (toyline) or Transformers fandom. — JIP | Talk 06:25, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. How often do we have to have these "but we use them on this board with 1000 users" discussions before we speedy them all?  RasputinAXP  talk * contribs 13:27, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's not used on one forum, and not by 1000 people. It's used on Allspark.com, and Tfans.com, as well as hundreds of others. Both of the two I mentioned have well over 6000 members. comment by 66.73.158.103 (talk • contribs)
      • Comment It was a general comment regarding several similar concepts we've had on VfD for a few days. 12000 users, disregarding cross-registration, still doesn't make it encyclopedic knowledge.  RasputinAXP  talk * contribs 15:02, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        • Comment Both expressions originate on Usenet, on alt.toys.transformers, and predate both Allspark.com and Tfans.com. — JIP | Talk 04:44, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge with a general Transformers Fandom article. FIRRIB's most notable use was in an actual issue of the Transformers comics. TNM, to the best of my knowledge, was used in an issue of Toyfare, but that's the most acclaim it's ever gotten. I'm only even voting to merge it because it was coined by a friend of mine. (SUP KILBY?) -HX
  • Delete. What junk. Dottore So 19:22, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete nothing here to keep. -Splash 21:42, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge the latter to Transformers article; never heard of the former. -Sean Curtin 04:50, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
    • It dates back to the introduction of Beast Wars. It is a parody of the initial negative reactions of people who thought that only Generation 1 (the "classic" Transformers, with the cars and the planes and things) were real Transformers, and could not bear the thought of the characters transforming to realistic-looking animals. "Trukk not munky" refers to Hasbro's initial portrayal of Optimus Primal as a reincarnation of Optimus Prime, which does not explain how he changed from a trailer truck to a gorilla. The phrase was often seen on alt.toys.transformers, but always in a parodical context. — JIP | Talk 15:52, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • ...Joona? (Seriously, give it up. Neither of these things are really wikipedia worthy. If Hasbro THEMSELVES made a reference to it at a BotCon or such, things might be different, but as it stands, nobody gives a rat's ass about ATT anymore. Not even people in the fanbase. -HX
        • Yes, you've found me. Perhaps you're right about this. I'm changing my vote. Don't keep them. Merge FIRRIB with a more general Transformers article, do what you want with Trukk not munky. — JIP | Talk 09:58, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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