Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transformation of culture

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. As mentioned last week by Ad Orientem, this could have been closed as a no consensus last week. Proceeding with that closure; no prejudice against an early renomination – although I would suggest a discussion towards redirecting the article to the suggested pages before taking this up at Afd again. (non-admin closure) Lourdes 02:49, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Transformation of culture[edit]

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This feels like a personal essay and doesn't seem to be getting any better anytime soon. At this point, I think we should just blow it up and start over. I suggest that we delete or possibly stubbify this version, but allow editors to create a new article on this topic. TheDracologist (talk) 17:52, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to social change or culture change. This is pretty deep in essay territory, so any merger in a conventional sense wouldn't be much less work than just a de novo expansion of the target. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 21:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - there already is a merge discussion here. Discussion should take place there. --Fixuture (talk) 17:27, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The linked merge "discussion" has gone eight weeks without a single participant other than the proposer. I suppose that means it could be viewed as uncontroversial at this point, and simply be done by an editor who is so motivated. But it also shouldn't be a procedural bar to a deletion discussion. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:58, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:46, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:46, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:46, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I agree with Fixuture, no one has opposed your merge suggestion, perhaps you could bring it up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sociology, wait another week, and then Be bold. Smmurphy^(Talk) 15:42, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I had forgotten about the merge discussion. Thanks for directing me to somewhere that I can attract more attention to it. TheDracologist (talk) 22:25, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A user who has not participated herein has opposed the merge at Talk:Culture change
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. The topic is certainly notable. The article is not very good, and frankly, if somebody wanted to WP:TNT this and start a new one, it wouldn't be bad, but unless someone wants to rewrite it from scratch, merge or no merge, this is still a notable topic. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:51, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to social change or culture change. WP:TNT: we don't need overlapping articles covering similar ground. - GretLomborg (talk) 18:48, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and, most likely redirect per discussion elsewhere. Notable topic even if quality poor. Montanabw^(talk) 16:49, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I came close to closing this as a no-consensus given that opinions are all over the place. But let's give it another week and hope for consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:40, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.