Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tran Quoc Binh (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Wizardman 23:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tran Quoc Binh

A Vietnamese American soldier killed in Iraq. No notable military actions or achievements. Effectively an obit. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:23, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete as I could accept a cited claim that he was the first Vietnamese-American killed in combat, period. Otherwise this is very limited notability (one war). --Dhartung | Talk 10:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. While the death of anyone is sad, Wikipedia is not a memorial. KleenupKrew (talk) 12:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP--CHANGE-to --DELETE. He is the first Vietnamese American to receive this high honor.Press release from the California Office of the Governor Bnguyen (talk) 01:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete, poor bloke, but I think he is non-notable, even if he is the first Vietnamese to receive a high honour. +Hexagon1 ^(t) 14:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 22:23, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete Very tragic, and a great loss, but does not meet the requirements of WP:BIO. Being the first person from country X killed in war Y fighting for country Z is not something that should give inherent notability, given the number of countries and of wars in the world. Think about going back and having articles for every country which fought in every recorded war and all the nationalities which fought and died for each country in each war. Who was the first Chinese soldier killed in the American Civil War, or the first Siamese soldier killed in World War 1 fighting for Britain? The article seems a memorial piece based on obituaries. Edison (talk) 23:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep seems to cite some reliable news sources (following WP:BIO), but the first vietnam soldier claim isn't included in a reliable source so it may have to be deleted. Atyndall93 | talk 07:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Simply being in a news event doesn't make one notable, especially if it is a passing event, otherwise car crash victims and robberies would be on Wikipedia. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Memorial. MrPrada (talk) 08:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Very tragic, but if we use the "first Vietnamese-American to die in Iraq" precedent, then we would have articles about the first Cambodian-American, Laotian-American, Korean-American, etc. - to die in Iraq. Khoi khoi 02:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.