Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Torch (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus, the articles will therefore be kept by default. DES ^(talk) 13:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Torch (band)[edit]

Band and albums do not appear to meet WP:BAND. -WarthogDemon 01:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Have apparently had stuff played on national TV, had albums in national charts, and played at notable festivals. Some sources might be good, though. Oli Filth 01:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per Oli Filth. One of their albums has charted nationally, and they've got other small claims to notability. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?)} 02:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. Their notability to the non-Norwegian, English-speaking world makes them marginal for inclusion in the English Wikipedia. I think it's questionable whether #23 in Norway is "a charted hit" (per WP:BAND) rather than "a charted non-flop". Claims to notability are thinly sourced. Clconway 03:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Reason 1There are several norwegian bands listed on the Norwegian Wikipedia who are just as known as Torch. The bands Stonegard, Animal Alpha and Amulet (band), for instance. ~~And those articles are so badly written, it looks like it´s been written by 2-year olds on crack. How someone could give a green light on those articles is beyond me.~~ I would gladly do a cleanup on them when the time comes. Reason 2 Torch are hugely influenced by music styles from English speaking countries. All their lyrics are written in English. Their homepage and myspace is written in English. It makes sense to write an English wikiarticle. ALTHOUGH: I could wait 1 year before I submit Torch a second time on the wikipedia. If nothing notable has happened by then, they´re probably not worthy for the Wiki and I will let it go. -Rakasta 19:40, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
Weak delete Rakasta's argument seems to sum it up: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, well yes it does and maybe we'll get around to evaluating those articles, too, someday. That a band has influences from English or sings in English or even puts its web presence in English does not make them notable, if they were Norwegians singing in Navajo that might be notable, but English alas doesn't make one so. Also, what one's influences are really doesn't make one notable, if many people are influenced by the same source it may make the source notable, for example: if I am influced by the Bible and Jesus, which most would concede are notable, I don't get instant notability at WP. Carlossuarez46 21:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per oli filth. Mathmo ^Talk 22:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.