Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Michael

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The result was speedy delete‎ . WP:G5 by User:Justlettersandnumbers (non-admin closure) Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:17, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Michael[edit]

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I can't find sourcing for this person, the sources used appear typical celebrity fluff pieces using Gtranslate. Not meeting GNG, likely PROMO. Oaktree b (talk) 04:46, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

::Keep : Nominator says, he can't finding sourcing for the subject and he says the sources are fluff pieces using gtranslate ? and says doesn't meet GNG. Here are the reasons why its wrong and the article should be kept.

Reply to each section :

"Can find sources" - There are around 6 unique big length article all from reliable and independent secondary news sources all from reliable and reputed newspapers and magazines like International Business Times, Malayala Manorama, Vanitha, Onmanorama, Mathrubhumi etc talking about the subject. So it's irrelevant to tell that "can't find sources".
"Sources are not fluff pieces with and without using gtranslate" - There are 3 english news articles all detailed articles and secondary news sources, one from International Business Times and two from Onmanorama which doesn't need any Gtranslate and 3 other Malayalam detailed article secondary sources from Malayala Manorama, Vanitha and Mathrubhumi, all written by journalists as listed in these article and this detailed articles are no way fluff pieces.
"Meets GNG" - The International Business Times article https://www.ibtimes.co.in/kerala-showing-hesitance-accept-lgbt-community-says-top-makeup-artist-840767 is a detailed featured secondary news article about the subject , talking only about him in detail, similar is the case with 2 Onmanorama articles and additionally there are 3 very detailed and featured article secondary sources from Malayala Manorama, Vanitha and Mathrubhumi which makes the article pass GNG .
"Not PROMO" - The news references listed from International Business Times is written by journalist named Nirmal Narayanan . 2 Onmanorama articles are written by journalists Anagha Jayan E and Padmakumar K respectively. The Malayala Manorama article is written by journalist Deepthi Pellishery, The Mathrubhumi article is a special feature . Which proves that this is definetly not promo.

~~Christopheronthemove (talk) 06:04, 22 April 2023 (UTC)~~ Striking sock. Greyjoy^talk 16:21, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and Kerala. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 07:51, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The International Business Times is not a reliable source; a special feature implies paid promotion in a newspaper. [1] Oaktree b (talk) 14:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I can't find mention of the person in "reliable sources". Oaktree b (talk) 14:39, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: known for his viral photoshoots, celebrity makeup work for many South Indian celebrities. This is a promo piece and none of the sources are reliable. What is the claim of notability here? The subject becoming one among the many makeup artists and hairstylists of celebrities? This don't even pass WP:BASIC. Fails WP:ENTERTAINER and WP:GNG. 111.92.78.199 (talk) 18:02, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
::COMMENT : IP Votes can't be counted as per Wikipedia:IP addresses are not people Christopheronthemove (talk) 13:12, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Where it is mentioned here that IP Votes can't be counted. Don't make your own rules. I make regular edits from IP without creating any account. I also closely monitor edits of many users like you. My IP address is not static and it keeps changing several times. 111.92.78.203 (talk) 13:59, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG, was unable to find sources that support this article. Reviewed the sources and they also do not establish notability.

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
International Business Times	? Was not able to find anything about the reporter	There is consensus that the International Business Times is generally unreliable. WP:IBTIMES	~ Article is about the subject	✘ No
onmanorama	? Nothing in the archives for onmanorama	? Nothing in the archives for onmanorama	Article is just photos and some captions	✘ No
onmanorama	? Nothing in the archives for onmanorama	? Nothing in the archives for onmanorama	~ Article isn't really about him but it does mention him and he is quoted	? Unknown
Manorama Online	Appears to be independent	Considered a news org	Coverage from a viral photoshoot	✔ Yes
vanitha	? Nothing in the archives for vanitha	? Nothing in the archives for vanitha	Article is about the same photoshop with the same photos	? Unknown
mathrubhumi	?	Article has no analysis or depth just a link to a youtube video	~ Article is just a link to a youtube video with ~1500 views	✘ No
vanitha	? Same source as source 5 & 9	? Same source as source 5 & 9	Same source as source 5 & 9	? Unknown
International Business Times	? Was not able to find anything about the reporter	There is consensus that the International Business Times is generally unreliable. WP:IBTIMES	Article is about the subject	✘ No
vanitha	? Same source as source 5 & 7	? Same source as source 5 & 7	Same source as source 5 & 7	? Unknown
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 23:34, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

:: COMMENT : This source analysis is baseless and biased. They have not even added reporters names and considered every article written by different journalists as not reliable. I will send the genuine source analysis in next comment. Christopheronthemove (talk) 13:19, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~COMMENT : 'Here is the unbiased source analysis :~~

Source assessment table:

Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?

International Business Times Journalist name - NIRMAL NARAYANAN - https://www.ibtimes.co.in/reporters/nirmal-narayanan Syndicated news pieces in International Business Times is generally unreliable per WP:IBTIMES, but this is IB Times staff jounalist written article which is reliable. 454 word Article about the subject ✔ Yes

Onmanorama Journalist name - Anagha Jayan E - https://www.onmanorama.com/authors/anagha-jayan-e.html Onmanorama is the english online newspaper from Malayala Manorama 256 word Article about the subject ✔ Yes

Onmanorama Journalist name - Padmakumar K - https://www.onmanorama.com/authors/padmakumar-k.html Onmanorama is the english online newspaper from Malayala Manorama 520 word Article about him and his works (Title itself marks him as Artist behind those brilliant makeovers) ✔ Yes

Manorama Online Journalist name - ദീപ്‌തി പെല്ലിശ്ശേരി - https://www.manoramaonline.com/authors.deepthi-pellisseri.html Article from Malayala Manorama 500+ word Article about him and his viral photoshoot ✔ Yes

Vanitha Journalist name - Binsha Muhammed - https://www.vanitha.in/authorlandingpage.html?author=Binsha-Muhammed Article from Vanitha magazine having 6 Million circulation 500+ Article about him and his life history ✔ Yes

Mathrubhumi News Program Producer - AMRITHA A U - as listed in the video Article with the interview video of the artist from Mathrubhumi News Article with the interview video of the artist from Mathrubhumi News ✔ Yes

This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

~~This is the unbiased and genuine source analysis placing all journalist details Christopheronthemove (talk) 14:25, 23 April 2023 (UTC)~~[reply]

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