Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tonight's the Night (Little Birdy song)

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The result was no consensus. Courcelles 19:06, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tonight's the Night (Little Birdy song)[edit]

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Does not appear to be notable. Google searched and does not appear in any major charts or publications. Lachlanusername (talk) 01:01, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. — I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 04:10, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep you can't have looked very hard - the single reached #78 on the 2004 Triple J Hottest 100. Have found multiple verifiable references which i have included in the article. Dan arndt (talk) 04:22, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did actually search for that and didn't find it, not that it matters anymore. Lachlanusername (talk) 04:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Dan arndt (talk) 04:24, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Triple J is not an acceptable chart per WP:GOODCHARTS. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 04:34, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just out of curiosity, which part specifically states that Triple J isn't notable? Lachlanusername (talk) 04:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's notable, but it's not an acceptable one. I used the wrong word. Triple J chart is by a single network, so it's not acceptable. It'd be like using the Radio Disney charts. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 05:08, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd have to disagree as the Triple J Hottest 100 is voted on a national basis, and is international recognized. Dan arndt (talk) 07:51, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am also unclear on how it isn't notable, as, to repeat what Dan said, the Hottest 100 is a poll that includes world music and can be voted on by anyone with access to the Triple J website (presumably anywhere in the world). Each Hottest 100 list even has its own Wikipedia page. Lachlanusername (talk) 08:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's a long standing consensus that we don't use fan voted charts at all, regardless of how notable they are. Triple J is fan voted, so it shouldn't be used. See Wikipedia:CHARTS#General_guidelines. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 18:58, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you aware how few sales you need to make it onto a weekly ARIA top 40 chart (see Here I Am (Natalie Gauci song) - under 8,000 to make #2) vs how many votes you need to make it onto the annual Hottest 100 chart? The longevity, notabilty and prestige associated with the hottest 100 surely makes an exception to your standards required. The-Pope (talk) 00:00, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~.Keep Point taken about ARIA top 40 chart, but I suspect it would apply equally to fan-voted sites, like Triple J, as well. #78 of what? Would need more than this to make the song "notable." Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:34, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Amended opinion. In view of ARIA entry now added, notability is now established. Thanks to Dan for the much good work done by him. --Richhoncho (talk) 07:20, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what the Hottest 100 is? It's been going for almost 20 years, it's an annual poll, not a weekly/monthly thing and it had almost half a million votes that year. It is the definitive snapshot of what Australian youth think is notable music each year. The-Pope (talk) 17:21, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment numerous verifable references now provided in article. Dan arndt (talk) 05:28, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per newly supplied ref: it charted at No. 76 on the ARIA Singles Chart (which is a Good enough Chart).shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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