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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tong Yabghu Khagan's Expedition to East Iran[edit]

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Yet another random Turkic-related battle/war created by a brand new user and which has source issues.

The most cited source, History of Civilizations of Central Asia: The crossroads of civilizations, A.D. 250 to 750. does not have a single mention of "Tong Yabghu" and the pages cited show completely different topics, see for yourself [5]. I can only assume that the other sources has similar issues. Regardless, no search in WP:RS showed any result of a "war" in 625.

Fails WP:NHISTORY and WP:GNG. Imagine if every random, vague, conflict was to be made into an article, that is whats occuring in these type of articles. I suspect meatpuppetry, if not sockpuppetry, though that's another story. See also [6]. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:25, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Only thing you do is literally coming up with stuff like Wikipedia rules. Here are a few accurate/reliable sources:
  • The Archaeology of Afghanistan from earliest times to the Timurid period: New Edition Chapter-6[1]
  • History of Civilizations of Central Asia: The crossroads of civilizations, A.D. 250 to 750., p. 362[2]
  • Christoph Baumer, History of Central Asia, The: 4-volume set, p. 200[3]
  • The Global Connections of Gandhāran Art: Proceedings of the Third International Workshop of the Gandhāra Connections Project, University of Oxford, 18th-19th March, 2019, p. 19[4]
And yes i am a brand new user with source issues (!), o and i forgot to say, i am an object. (i am a which) Hunnic Enjoyer (talk) 13:06, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ [1]
  2. ^ [2]
  3. ^ [3]
  4. ^ [4]
  • HistoryofIran is incorrect about the HcCA source: I quote from it "The definitive annexation of Tokharistan and Gandhara to the Western Türk Empire was to take place some years later, in c.625, when Sasanian Iran became involved in the war against Byzantium that ultimately led to its eclipse.8 The Western Türk army of T’ung Yabghukaghan advanced to the River Indus, took possession of the most important cities and replaced the Hephthalite dynasties with Türk rulers. This event was commemorated by a medal minted probably by Tardushad, the new Türk ruler of Tokharistan, in honour of T’ung Yabghukaghan..."
Nevertheless, even this is minor coverage at best. There is nothing in the article which can't be sourced to this the HcCa, an extremely in-depth source. I am extremely hesitant attributing any sort of WP:SIGCOV to the article: for that reason, delete. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:09, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, my bad. Crossed that bit. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:13, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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